Kind of a trend, the amount of youtubers who i had loved but their content became generic after gaining popularity is quite a bit, most drastic one being mrwhosetheboss, his uniqueness went down faster than MH27 MH17
Mark Rober.
He got louder, flashier, less techy and more talky and is doing a gazillion reruns of the same general idea over and over. Can’t really enjoy it anymore.
I like what he do, no problem on that, but his voice is neither loud nor quiet. It has the tone of a loud speak but the audio come out soft, it hurt my ear when my brain trying to adjust to whatever that volume is.
Also yes another glitter bomb and animal puzzle maze.
Came here to say this too (actually did but didn’t scroll enough to see yours first). I totally agree. I feel like he’s not creating content for the same reasons he used to.
No one gives me Fellow Kids vibes more than Mark Rober.
CGP Grey. His last 114 or so videos were literally just a single round of rock paper scissors each.
Kidding. His videos are still great.
I hear historians hate him, for example because of the Americapox video. It’s heavily based on the book Guns, Germs and Steel without mentioning that it’s a theory many historians disagree with. /r/BadHistory has a wiki page dedicated to it.
While looking for this I also found economists unhappy with Humans Need Not Apply. In general I guess he has a tendency to confidently talk about things he’s not an expert on.
Ah yes, I also find some of his videos are totally incorrect. The humans need not apply one, as a public transit and cycling nerd, fails so hard to miss the point that we need less cars, not more and “smarter”.
Tbh I did fall off of his videos. His charm became smugness to me. I was excited to see his indian videos but then they never came. I used to listen to his podcasts but HI has been down for so long, and him and mike talking about making stuff lost interest when grey wasnt making that much stuff. It felt like he was cooking a huge pile of videos making they really good, but then we got hexagons. Maybe I have changed. Maybe I have.
I went exactly the same route as you, loved his old videos, HI. At some point I started to listen to the one with Myke (Cortex - had to look up the name) . The first few episodes where quite interesting, but it got repetitive at around episode 50 or so…
Now even the few videos he releases don’t really get me anymore
Cortex is basically a yearly cycle of talking about iPhone releases, WWDC, yearly themes. I still enjoy it but the main topic of productivity is mostly lost at this point.
Is it us or did something change? I almost thought it had something to do with Brady tempering grey into not being so I dunno. It felt like Brady was getting frustrated with grey towards the end
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Cinema Sins. Used to be 5 minute videos pointing out continuity errors or over-use of something (Iron Man 2 Bird Bonus Round) but then bloated into 20 minutes of nit picky bull crap.
I can’t even follow the logic most of the time. It pre-assumes you’ve dug as deeply into the movie as they have and have already moved past surface level continuity errors. Also, it got cringey any time they’d remove points for “hot chick moment” or “liking this scene humanizes our channel”.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEAsGoP-5I](Sustaining Stupidity - Why CinemaSins is Terrible)
Reject Cinema Sins, embrace Cinema Wins.
Mark Rober with CrunchLabs. I feel like he’s sold himself into a more corporate world and isn’t producing the same caliber of content he used to.
He’s only good for his glitter bomb videos once a year
And even those are pretty repetitive at this point
Linus Tech Tips.
They were pretty good in the beginning but the drive to create more and more output diminished the quality of the individual vids. Hence, the latest controversy.
To be fair, they dragged their feet on addressing it, sure, but then took massive steps to address it when they did. Top-to-bottom company-wide analysis and restructuring, limiting Linus’ role and voice, a complete moratorium on releasing videos while they made plans to slow the release output, and refocusing on quality-control with additional community input. Totally get if you still don’t like their videos, but I think they did everything possible to address everyone’s concerns.
I actually like the WAN Show podcast more than their videos. I think you get a sense for their genuineness and passion as they discuss current tech news…
Still waiting on the internal investigation results.
Yeah, willing to give them a second chance, but very much want this to be addressed first.
Did Linus ever really apologize for the “we didn’t sell the prototype we auctioned it” comment. I only saw him make excuses about miscommunication (blaming the company that lent the prototype). Or apologize to Gamers Nexus for saying they didn’t do “real” testing?
I only saw a long corporate speak “we will do better” video.
Hard to cite sources at the moment, I’m on mobile. From what I remember, both of those things ended up being a little bit overblown.
Prototype company had initially said that they could keep it. There was still a goof, as LTT said they would send it back, but it makes the logistics mix up a little more understandable.
The kinds of testing that the two different channels do are very different. I do think it was disingenuous to say Tech Jesus didn’t do real testing. But also, if they were as close as they said they were before this whole thing, he could also have called up Linus and called them on their slapdash bullshit on the phone.
And nothing has been released about that internal investigation. But that wouldn’t be the first time they promised to do something and didn’t. In this case, it’s highly possible investigation is still going on. Once it’s finished, they may even be legally barred from making the results public (IANAL). Either way, if it is truly being conducted by an important 3rd party, they’re doing the right thing.
Prototype company had initially said that they could keep it.
That was the lie that Linus told that got me to stop watching LTT. The company sent Gamers Nexus the email chain where they clearly had been asking for it back and got the run around until it was auctioned. Then Linus had the gall to say, “We didn’t sell it, it was auctioned.”
LTT is a big company. Mistakes were made. But instead of saying, we screwed up they tried to blame the prototype company when it wasn’t their fault at all.
I only saw a long corporate speak “we will do better” video.
Linus didn’t have a direct apology to the prototype company. He blamed them for his auctioning off their prototype. Saying, [sic] “Sorry, you made a mistake and we didn’t follow through correctly.” isn’t a real apology.
The company responded by sending the email chain to Gamers Nexus to prove their side of the story.
So you didn’t watch the video, or pay attention to the part I linked to.
Finally I want to apologise to Billet Labs for auctioning off their monoblock at LTX 2023.
Literally verbatim from that video, followed by some further explanation about what happened.
Is it a sufficient apology? Maybe not. But to say they didn’t apologise is completely false.
GN August 14th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjc&t=108s breaks story
Linus claims Billet said we could keep it and we didn’t sell it we auctioned it.
Linus defends his “we didn’t sell it we auctioned it” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cTpTMl8kFY&t=948s by saying its important to get all the details.
However the details, as Linus already knew, was that Billet asked for it back 2 weeks earlier, they lost track of it and sold it.
Linus response August 14th: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cTpTMl8kFY&t=948s claims they offered to pay for it before they were under any pressure
GN August 15th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3byz3txpso&t3m54s Billet labs shows email chain they didn’t receive a response until after GN video was released and LTT was under pressure.
Billets email chain shows that they asked for it back long before it was sold. Linus claims they offered to pay for it before being pressured. Billet labs email chain shows they didn’t receive an offer until after GN’s videos hit the news.
Which didnt negate the fact that Linus apologized.
Not that it matters, it was a shit thing to do.
To be fair they did slow down quite a bit lately. I have been watching a lot less so can’t really speak to the quality though.
IMO, their quality has improved a noticeable amount.
Well that is good to read! Let us hope they also address the other issues behind the scenes.
H3H3. As soon as they got notoriety for their defamation lawsuit against the cringe pickup artist guy, they abandoned making reaction videos and instead became a trashy podcast.
Hey, that was around the time I fell off, too!
Does the podcast primarily cover internet drama?
Joshua Weissman. He started out super chill, most of his recipes were pretty approachable, the editing wasn’t over the top, the b-roll stuff at the end was tasteful.
Now it’s like he’s catering to a whole different crowd. The editing is over the top and jammed with memes, he’s more idk, psychotic isn’t quite the right word, but it’s way less chill, he’s constantly saying stuff like “if you don’t use XYZ ingredient then what are you even making this recipe for?”, his recipes are more over the top, and he has a much more elitist opinion of himself and his food. The change happened so quickly too, it was kind of shocking.
Yeah he talks like he’s on coke now. Borderline unwatchable. I bet you can reduce the playback speed by 50% and it would de-stress the whole experience.
I miss chill fermentation fridays.
I used to have a couple of his videos bookmarked. Making pizza or some kind of bread dough, can’t remember but I was using them all the time. Once finished it would autoplay another one of his videos and I agree they got worse and worse. Louder and faster and louder, they would usually make me rush to hit pause with doughy fingers.
For actual cooking stuff, I prefer Adam Ragusea. He dives more into the history and molecular gastronomy side of things, to explain how a dish came to be and why it works. Not quite as sciencey as Alton Brown, but I definitely see the influences. And for actual historical food stuff, you may want to check out Tasting History. He’s a creator who does deep dives into historical dishes, then tries to recreate them.
Both interesting in their own ways, but Adam’s stuff has helped be become a better cook simply by understanding the why, rather than the how. Because if you know why something works, (rather than simply knowing how to do it) you’ll be able to translate that to other situations where it will work, and be able to avoid/work around situations where it won’t. It took me from “following recipes” to “making my own recipes” if that makes sense.
Already subbed to both of those channels lol. I also like J. Kenji Lopez Alt and Brian Lagerstrom for similar reasons - their videos are more about how to cook than just following a particular recipe.
Joe Rogan.
Since nobody else is saying it.
To go downhill implies that it was once good.
He was the bomb in phant-uh… Newsradio
I think he’s a good host for engaging and entertaining conversations, if you don’t take him seriously. The problem is he became hugely politically consequential, and he can’t decide if he’s just an everyday moron (ha ha) or a powerful voice with meaningful opinions.
Smarter Every Day. Used to be just some amateur prettyboy nerd just geeking out and getting behind the scenes on cool stuff. Then it seems like he run out of cool ideas and money got involved. Last episode I watched, he was hocking some obviously awful aquarium game that he was involved with.
Really? I think he still makes some really solid content
He does have great content and some great videos still that I enjoy, but it’s also clear he thinks he can understand and make a video about stuff he absolutely doesn’t understand.
The fall for me was when he fronted some random encrypted file sharing startup with very misleading marketing.
Yeah, I still remember watching him with my dad at night before bed. Great memories, but now he seems like a wannabe Mr. Beast…
yeah, stopped watching when he got a slowmo camera
Why is it always aquarium games?
Idubbbz. It’s fine that he grew out of his edginess, I largely have too, but most of his videos now just feel like he needs to pay the bills and just cranks something out.
Marques Brownlee (a.k.a. MKBHD).
A few weeks ago he posted a new episode of his podcast with him and a few others. They talked about Nothing Chats and Sunbird, the iPhone getting RCS and the usual OpenAI drama. At some point Marques mentions the fact that iMessage with RCS will still be “unencrypted”. Following that they ponder over why RCS wouldn’t have this fabled encryption, such a weird thing that RCS doesn’t support encryption from the get-go, and after brainstorming for a bit someone adds the information that it indeed will be encrypted in-transit, but not end-to-end encrypted. And what comes next boggled my mind: Silence ensues. No-one says anything. You only see the faces of four grown-ass tech influencers that are stunlocked and completely unable to process what this neverheard difference between encryption methods might mean. It all just ends with “I’ve been trying so hard to figure out what that means. I can’t.” And then…then they simply move on, not even addressing for a second this knowledge gap and solving it right there on the spot. You can watch it if you want. What hurts the most is that Marques’ co-star, David, the guy that looks the most confused, made a 1+ hour history-lesson type video a few months ago about the history of the internet and the importance of HTTPS encryption.
Now, if we’re talking about visual quality and overall visual production quality, his videos were insanely enjoyable to watch. I also don’t want to shame anyone for not knowing something and I understand that this is in part the consequence of an ever growing company at this point. The channel is still growing and has reached 18 millions subs. Him (and his team) also cover a constantly growing tech sphere, from phones to laptops, from e-vehicles to supercars, from tech politics to tech blunders. But coming from a guy that has been a “tech influencer” on YouTube for 14 years, a guy that over the years had the chance to interview Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Sundar Pichai and surely had the chance to surround himself with experts on all sorts of topics, a guy that dedicated entire videos to Nothing Chats, the role of Quantum Computing in encryption or the dangers and potentials of the Metaverse, this kind of shocked me. I just couldn’t take him seriously anymore and I hate myself for it. But it’s like my grandma not knowing the difference between a normal call and a WhatsApp call, expect that he’s been talking about tech for more than a decade.
Production quality wise, the videos are always exceptionally well done for a Youtube channel. I just really cannot stand his content.
He markets himself as an unbiased first look channel, but for example, any time a new phone comes out, he’d praise an iPhone for all the same reasons he absolutely fucking decimated an Android phone for. It’s very similar to other products he takes a look at. The podcast is also filled to the brim with similar conversations, and it’s just unpleasant tech-bro culture
He never struck me as being actually knowledgable about tech. He knows the consumer level stuff, just enough to review things. But anything deeper than that he never touches.
he’s a apple shill mkbhd
I used to watch iilluminaughtii several years ago, probably because I’ve been grabbing popcorn and enjoying watching someone dunking on multi-level marketing since, uh, 90s at least. Then I watched some video that was about some topic that I was kind of in middle of a deep dive, too (I can’t remember which exactly. Elan School, probably?). And the video was bland as hell. And then I was like “yeah, most of these other videos are kind of forgettable shallow pap too”.
…and this year we found out about the whole landlordy corporate town fancier backstabby financial abuser helicopter-CEO situation. And the content mill situation. And the plagiarism thing. Can’t forget the plagiarism thing. …I was like, “oh this all just makes sense now.”
Illuminaughtii was getting pushed into my feed so hard right before everything went down that I’ve started to cast side-eye on anyone that the algorithm starts to push hard.
On the plus side, I found Cruel World Happy Mind because of all the awful stuff Illuminaughtii did to her.
Used to like old MoistCritical, now it’s all just drama, stream reactions and an occasional sex toy video. Also took up a gambling site sponsorship for one of the podcast episodes, so I stopped watching him and haven’t seen the channel in like a year. Maybe he has changed though in that time.
Rooster Teeth and Achievement Hunter - their fall from grace was slow at first. First yet another corporate sellout and Bernie leaving, then the employee scandals - especially Ryan. RvB outlived itself and it was their prime thing. RVBY went downhill after Monty died. The new talent wasn’t as entertaining as the old, and then the pandemic really kicked their ass.
New funhaus, while different, is just as good as old funhaus. Shame they’re moving towards live content.
Never would have called him a favorite of mine exactly, but a channel I used to watch was Shadiversity. Had some interesting videos on medieval life and castles. These days he seemingly only does “let’s test this wacky weapon” videos and has a terrible second channel where he whines about “woke culture”.
has a terrible second channel where he whines about “woke culture”
That’s disappointing. I’ve watched a lot of his videos over the years and didn’t even know about a second channel or his beliefs.
Isn’t that kind of a good thing?
Some people don’t want to financially support creators who on record have said things like homosexuality is wrong and should not be encouraged. Watching youtube videos is financial support.
I understand that, but I also respect creators that keep their main channel focused on its core.
I lost interest after he sang the praises of the Goblin Slayer rape scene. BuT tHe GoBLiNs nEeD tO bE sCaRy! You can “make monsters monstrous” without adding explicit rape scenes to your mid-tier manga.
Tangential fun fact: the guy from “Shadiversity” and the guy from “Drawing with Jazza” are brothers. This is incredibly odd to me because I don’t think that they look or act alike at all.
I find that connection hilarious cus Jazza is way more popular and talented with true artistic ability, where shad is an anti-woke dipshit who gets mad at the mario movie and plays with swords.
I actually appreciate that he’s taken care to keep the two channels separate, I just didn’t bother to subscribe to Knights Watch and so it doesn’t bother me.
I guess mileage varies on the “wacky weapons” vs “medieval history” division, though. I like both so I’m fine with them being mixed.
