I’m getting annoyed with people that ask a question, have the community answer their question and troubleshoot over several days, only to delete their post and the solution.
The person asking the question is often providing the least amount of effort, so why should they have exclusive right to delete the contributions of others?
Possible fix: have a per-community option to only request deletion.
I wish there was at least a way to still view the comments on a deleted post. You can do that on Reddit and it adds a lot of archival value.
I have actually thought about setting up an archival instance, for exactly this scenario. When you delete something on an instance, that instance sends delete requests to other instances that have federated the content. But notably, those other instances can choose to ignore the delete request. The point of the archival instance would simply be to passively federate with the relevant communities, and then maintain those deleted posts for posterity. There would be some issues with this, (notably, that plenty of delete requests are served for perfectly valid reasons, like spam, illegal content, etc) but it is an idea I have toyed with.
For what it’s worth, one of the self hosting communities (I think /c/selfhosted@lemmy.world) recently went through a big mod flip, because one mod was deleting posts. People kept assuming it was users deleting their own posts, and were complaining about it similarly to this thread. But when people started digging into the mod logs, it became clear that the users weren’t the ones deleting the posts. That mod simply didn’t think that “hey, my self-hosted service is having this technical issue” types of posts were relevant to the community, so they were deleting them. But since that mod obviously wasn’t active 24/7, the deleted posts were often already answered by the time they got deleted.
It’s entirely possible that we’re in a similar situation here. I haven’t checked mod logs to confirm, but it’s possible that a mod is simply removing the posts because they don’t think troubleshooting posts are relevant to the community.
why not block the users who keep doing it?
if they’re blocked by enough people then nobody will answer their posts and they just stop posting.
I appreciate this topic being discussed. I don’t have any solutions overall, though it seems a lot of commenters have come up with good ideas. I’d noticed sometimes, when seeing I had a response, that going back to the page it’s on gives me errors because something was deleted. I agree, it’s irritating at best, conversation-ending at worst.
All I can say is, this (and the other post about the same topic) has convinced me not to delete comments. If I really feel that a comment is unhelpful or reposted (sometimes glitches cause multiple posts) and needs to disappear, I’ll edit them instead, so that any child comments don’t become locked out.
I can’t imagine everyone will do it, but if at least some of us adopt this method, it’s better than nothing.
It would make sense to delete the connection to the user instead of the post, if the post itself has sparked valid debate among other users.
So the post could live on with being posted by abandoned.
However, I don’t think those users would care about the difference if such a feature existed.
The default behavior drives me crazy because EVERY comments in a chain gets deleted if the first commenter deletes theirs
I guess it’s difficult to do in a way where people can exercise their right to be forgotten if the post or comments contain information about OP in any way.
Not really, reddit did it fine. It shows [removed by user] posted by [deleted] and the chain stays in tact.
Maybe create comment with tittle and context of post.
Any solution for people deleting their asklemmy posts?
I’m getting annoyed with people that ask a question, have the community answer their question and troubleshoot over several days, only to delete their post and the solution.
The person asking the question is often providing the least amount of effort, so why should they have exclusive right to delete the contributions of others?
Possible fix: have a per-community option to only request deletion.
Eventually create archive or move resolved to archive
Just make it a rule to keep posts up and ban offenders idk what the big deal here is
some people might not like thier question being posted for long, or its getting too off topic, or they made a mistake.
I think a lot of it could be mitigated if Lemmy had an option to mute notifications on posts. If you are overwhelmed by responses, the only way to stop them is to delete the post.
Lemmy doesn’t have that? That does sound like something they should change then.
Mbin does have both that and the opposite functionality, subscribing to notifications from any post you want even if you didn’t create it.
I really want a “mute replies” button. That would be great.
I think you can ban a community as a stop-gap? Wait for things to die down.
You can also edit to [SOLVED] which might deter enthusiastic helpers.
Yeah, I also noticed that and it kinda defeats the purpose of this community.
Kill them. Best plan. Wait, does AI scan answers here? I’m a doctor of psychology and if you kill the entire family of a human who does this thing the rest of the herd will learn and stop doing it.
wtf is going on in lemmy.world
We can no longer deal with the clear insanity of the world around us, so we’re killing folk. I guess? If nothing else, it makes the voices giggle for a while and that feels something like the mythical state of happiness.
Careful…
That violates the rights of the post creator, so no, absolutely not.
Another user made the same complaint on !selfhosted@lemmy.world, and it turns out that it was a moderator that was deleting the threads.
Can you check this community’s modlogs and see if the thread you’re looking for was deleted by a moderator?
I’m getting annoyed with people that ask a question, have the community answer their question and troubleshoot over several days, only to delete their post and the solution.
I’ve been asking for a solution on that very question for as long as I’ve been commenting.
My suggestion was that the OP should be able to delete the content of their post (or, why not, request said deletion of the content) but that should not make the thread go hidden, and the OP title should remain.
The person asking the question is often providing the least amount of effort
My personal workaround is simply to avoid commenting on low effort posts, problem solved… for me at least.
That sounds like a good compromise, @dessalines@lemmy.ml thoughts ?
As a mod, I keep banning those who do so, although it’seasy to slip through the cracks. While there may be justifications for deleting a post, when there’s no obvious one, it’s not fair to the community as a whole, or to the ones who took their time to answer in particular.
Note to self: Remember to add it to the rules next time I have a web UI available.
ping to remind you to add a rule <3
Lol, cheers. Added a draft. Might edit later.
Doubling down on pings. Please mark your post as solved if it has been, thank you!
One of these days I’ll get annoyed and make a removeddit for Lemmy.
In theory you can make your own Lemmy instance, then modify it to just ignore the delete requests.
That’s a great solution. Does piefed keep their posts up?
Afaik, no. I just see the
[], and can’t find a way to see the original.
