• M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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    6 hours ago

    So fuck me for discussing American politics on a thread about… American Politics?

    You mean shutting down any and all other options then the status quo?

    I watched you all tell people that 2 years ago was not the time, that last year was not the time, that now is not the time. So when do you actually fix anything? Because I can see plain as day that it by design is never the time.

    You telling people to “kindly get out the fucking way and jerk off to your own superiority elsewhere.” for not agreeing with you is (and this should not shock you) more then a little bit fascist. I will keep doing my part where I am and will continue to comment on american politics on a thread about… american politics.

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      5 hours ago

      You were calling me out for discussing American Politics as an American. I personally think I’m entitled to an opinion on my own fucking country’s politics, especially when I’m in a position to do something.

      All you assholes seem to do is insist that we magic a fix thay cannot happen overnight.

      And yeah, 2 years ago we told people to vote against Trump no matter who. But you motherfuckers spent the whole time saying Kamala’s nomination wasn’t fair, or that the Dems were no worse than the GOP. And it worked and millions stayed home instead of voting for Harris.

      That lead dorectly to every fucking thing that’s happened under Trump’s watch, from wars of choice to gestapo takeovers of American cities, to the murder of hundreds of civilians in fishing boats, to worldwide economic catatrophe, to the deaths of millions from USAID cuts, to the collapse of food safety regulations, and so, so much more.

      People like you have blood on your hands.

      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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        You were calling me out for discussing American Politics as an American. I personally think I’m entitled to an opinion on my own fucking country’s politics, especially when I’m in a position to do something.

        Nope, I was (and am) calling you out for pushing the status quo in a broken system. Unlike you people I don’t expect you to stop talking or thinking.

        All you assholes seem to do is insist that we magic a fix thay cannot happen overnight.

        Once again, not from me. I am stating that you all need to start something or you will be in the same place you are now forever.

        And yeah, 2 years ago we told people to vote against Trump no matter who. But you motherfuckers spent the whole time saying Kamala’s nomination wasn’t fair, or that the Dems were no worse than the GOP. And it worked and millions stayed home instead of voting for Harris.

        Second highest voter turn out in your nations history, but hey since I also never told people to stay home and not vote, you are not only wrong but wrong in multiple ways. The people saying the nomination was not fair where correct, but so what? You had the turn out and more of you americans voted for the yellow king. The world watched him make speeches right from a Mussolini style rally yet you all still voted for that, and instead of any tiny amount of introspection as to why that happened you say shit like that.

        That lead dorectly to every fucking thing that’s happened under Trump’s watch, from wars of choice to gestapo takeovers of American cities, to the murder of hundreds of civilians in fishing boats, to worldwide economic catatrophe, to the deaths of millions from USAID cuts, to the collapse of food safety regulations, and so, so much more.

        Yes it did, and once again, why do you think it is that people given two choices (the status quo or to burn it all down in a wild racist final ride) they picked the yellow man claiming he would do all of that? You are all way to used to just blaming the other team and hand waving any sort of responsibility.

        People like you have blood on your hands.

        Ok that is funny.

        One, I am sure I do. Why you think you can sit on any sort of high horse as an american is peak comedy.

        Two, and I am not sure why I have to keep reiterating this, I never once have told people not to vote. I feel its the least, the very least someone can do. You have painted me as some sort of enemy in your head that you have made for anyone who does not fit into your ideals, something you should understand is very very dangerous.

        Three, and this one is the big one. You have the blood on your hands, we are not all american, you are. You have spent your entire life living in a society that tried to dictate what others should and could do, played world police, pushed everyone around, and called out evil when you thought you all saw it. Now it is your turn in the hot seat, and all I see is excuses and digging deeper.

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        And their magic solution is always to do nothing, not support the Democrats, and see if total collapse is better than fixing anything.

        The crazy part is, you literally can’t tell which ones are just teenager morons and which ones are literal fascists, because an adult fascist THINKS LIKE a fucking teenaged moron. So good luck sorting out which of these people means well but is a teenaged idiot, and which ones are the actual fascists.

        They make the same arguments with the same flawed logic because they have the same brain limitations.