Only if the affected users know about the existence of lemmy, and many of them likely do not. If you happen to still be using reddit, you should use it to shill lemmy, hopefully in a diversity of subreddits so that lemmy doesn’t become any more of an echo chamber than it already is.
I’m doing my part, and if you still use reddit make sure to use an ad blocker and a VPN at least to make it harder to get any revenue from you.
It’ll be both good and bad if it happens.
While it’ll be great for the threadiverse to have more growth it will inevitably put us in the crosshairs of bot farms and AI data farmers.
Why should we care what people that are still using Reddit do or don’t do do?
Sorry, but anybody still there deserves whatever shit they get.
they already aggressively starting to force a login popup, and also trying to redirect old reddit to new reddit. there ultimate goal is to make people use the APP.
Also, recently they require you to login to access old reddit where previously you could browse without logging in. They do not require a valid email address (yet) to create an account, so while not a total crap show, it is rapidly approaching.
This change is what led me to do a search for alternatives to reddit in which Lemmy here was suggested.
i’ve started recommending feddit.org (my lemmy instance) to people that i know irl, but the difficulty is the content: too much politics (especially trump and others), and not enough shitpost.
Be mindful that that is a Germany-based right-wingoid cesspit that supports and excuses the Israel genocide of Palestinians, all under the guise that “legally they can’t ever be as evil as us, the Nazis”.
Whoa, source?
i try that too but its so hard to get people who are used to endless doom scrolling on reddit to accept the fact that u can scroll lemmy for 20min 2x per day and then u done (thats a good thing tho). Its even worse for the insta brained ones…
instagrammers are a lost case …
I wonder if accounts that are 18 years old will also be required to be verified.
Google did it so I assume they will
google’s login requirement conincides with reddits login popups, (reddit depends on google). one of thier current method is limiting the amount of accounts per device.
I think most who would leave have already left.
I can get out of lemmy what I got out of reddit a long time ago. It only takes a few hundred smart/funny people to make a chat board good. We’re here now. Hopefully some of the niche communities get ported over soon enough, but the real greatness of reddit was that it was mostly uncensored and intelligent opinion. That’s mostly dead.
Only in some communities it was…
And, the lack of censorship wasn’t a good thing. It allowed absolute shtshow’s like thedonald or fatpeoplehate to exist way too long. There were also numerous pedo subreddits too which were allowed to exist apparently.
I’d argue that Reddit is at least partially responsible for a lot of f’ed up shit that many countries are now facing, by empowering those weirdos
i think FB has reddit beat, FB resulted in more conflicts than reddit ever did.
The problem with reddit very specifically is that it was, in many ways, internet counterculture. It grabbed a very specific demographic which is much less likely to be active on Facebook - young men stepping out from their edgy teenager “it’s not a stage mom” stage, and into the throes of early adulthood. So now you have this very strange thing where “youth counterculture” is sometimes (often enough to be a problem) this unholy marriage between fascist nihilism and Christian nationalism.
Absolutely true
In fact, here in Australia, someone has now introduced legislation in parliament to force social media companies to provide a feed without the algorithm / only posts by people you subscribe to
Of course the right wing nut jobs don’t like the legislation, because they rely on scare mongering and rage bait to exist
That’s why you know it’s great legislation
And some of them upon arriving here, noped out (either immediately or waiting a few years first) and went back:-(.
That type definitely will not be so eager to return.
It does not help that people here can be INSANELY aggressive against each other.
The fuck you on about, scum?
Brother, early reddit was a fucking war zone lol. I swear, I learned more grammar from outright shame than I ever did in school.
Same. Kongregate essentialy shammed me one comment at a time into having a somewhat decent grammar.
Shamed*
Especially from hexbear, which not every instance defederates from.
Though I’ve also seen more than a few people so proud at their choice to flaunt pushing past consent, from Lemmy.ml.
Wait, people on Lemmy.ml do what!?!
When hexbear.net and Lemmygrad.ml are defederated, then nearly 100% of the time the most batshit insane replies I see are from Lemmy.ml.
Echo chambers do horrible things to people:-(.
i think there are more lemmy.ml users than the other 2 tankie instances.
Am just glad I blocked them all…
Reddit is 80%+ bots so I don’t expect those accounts to shift platforms. But I do imagine some former reddit users will trickle over as it continues to alienate its fanbase with stupid choices like getting rid of old reddit.
Most of Reddit’s users do not post, comment, or even vote.
Reddit’s product is the ability to sell people the perception of a natural conversation between two ordinary people on the internet, where the conversation is shaped by corporations and state agents.
Actual ordinary people get in the way of that. Reddit does not want users.
Most of Reddit’s users do not post, comment, or even vote.
Tbf the 90-9-1 rule applies everywhere on social media, ostensibly including here though many claim to have merely lurked there yet actually talk here. But we may still have a 51-48-1 distribution here?
It’s a lot of dead internet with most posts being dredged up reposts and celeb gossip/worship (which has gotten way worse btw). It’s starting to resemble instagram "memes’ and the nerdier shit is definitely coming over here.
istg, what’s with all the harvesting they’ve been doing of cat pictures over there?: 11 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 5 hours ago, 6 hours ago, 26 minutes ago …
It can’t all be karma-farming.
Not sure what you mean by exodus. I “left” Reddit for Lemmy, but Lemmy doesn’t do what I want, so it doesn’t replace Reddit. I went back to Reddit. Now I’m on both, for different reasons.
I don’t have any issues with bots on Reddit, but all the subs I’m on have very small numbers of users. The “equivalent” Lemmy communities are ghost towns where people haven’t made a single post in 2 years.
I don’t feel guilty about looking at reddit now and then, but I do it through browser and I will NEVER contribute content or moderation, ever again. Fuck them. I used redact, deleted all my shit. Site is 90% dead internet trash 10% humans who haven’t been banned yet for saying a bad word.
Reddit has a long tail of small communities you really can’t find elsewhere. Some of the ones I frequent tried to move to Lemmy but it really didn’t work out. Ended up moving to Discord, which is far worse than Reddit.
The only thing I’ll kinda miss is the sub for my sports team because it’s a good aggregation of news and people with insight and information comment there.
…but at the same time I won’t miss it because of the endless homering and doom n gloom anytime anytime happens
Probably not large scale, but definitely a spike. We’ve been seeing more signups lately due to the US talking shit about Canada.
We publish some graphs here https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/data/lemmy/users
Reddit is doing age verification now?? lmao
thats what facebook does, reddit wants face scan and ID verification eventually.
Im going to lift my shaft and take a front shot photo of my nutsack to send to Spez Reddit before i give in to age verification
They’re doing the double whammy. Mandatory sign-in (even on old.reddit) and any account they can’t estimate as belonging to an adult through their use of invasive spy metrics and AI will be forced to do age verification.
I mean, they’re required by the law in certain countries. With their size, there’s no way around that.
which is pushed by the same companies that wanted it in the first place, Meta is one of the oens behind the push for age verification
Spez allowed a subreddit for child pedofiles to defend their actions and advocate for no age limits for statutory rape or porn. It didnt get removed until the fat people hate banning created outrage. Pretty sure the laws about not fucking children didnt dictate how he ran his platform and theyve been around a tad bit longer than age verification laws. Just sayin, dont confuse investor appeasement with choosing to follow the law. Plus i wouldnt put it past them if i found out they lobbied to have these laws past so they font have to track every click and person underneath their front end. This just made it their front door.
Simply speaking. No
Lets be real, while many do care, it isn’t going to be a “I need to leave the platform” level care.
Furthermore, the people impacted by it, may also not actually be in the majority either. For example they are doing similar to how discord is doing their age verification, where they are using existing metrics to infer your age without hard requiring it. Reddit has stated that said metrics include account age, email provider and topics you navigate.
Unless they have a super heavy handed way of doing this, I doubt anything super meaningful like another mass exodus like how the API issue was will happen.
My guess is, all NSFW communities will see a surge.
not if they dont hear about it
We need to start spreading word of mouth, with posters, etc.
People already know - that’s the problem.
See e.g. these comments from a community that a couple of months ago was considering whether to switch from Reddit to the Threadiverse (https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/1uiywal/should_we_switch_to_lemmy/):
I tried switching to Lemmy a long time ago, but that place is toxic and full of weird people.
There are big pockets of radical tankie communities on Lemmy that like trolling and being toxic
There are a lot more reasons than this but having spent the last 3 years on the fediverse alternatives, and just seen the shit that happens over there, I feel very confident in saying it will not ever serve as a serious Reddit alternative. It will serve as something, but not Reddit
Lemmy is shit. So is reddit but Lemmy is shittier
Sadly, these seem representative of how people think of us here. You can see it for yourself too: simply browse most instances from an account without your existing blocks, in order to see what it is like from the eyes of a Redditor. Worse, they are primarily religious (Christian, Muslim, Mormon, whatever) centrists, and not only do they not FEEL welcomed here, but… in truth… they AREN’T ⁉️
Many also use - <gasp> - fucking Windows!!1! (Or Macs) People here are extremely toxic towards viewpoints seen as totally, completely, 💯% incorrect.
Which makes sense. But then it begs the question: people keep saying that we should try to increase the number of people coming here from Reddit but like… do we really want that? Truly?
I suspect new people unknowingly went to the tankie instances.
Or any instance that federated with them. Unlike lemmy.world, a ton of smaller instances - all of those that I looked at, like StarTrek.website and mander.xyz and discuss.online - did not defederate from hexbear.net or Lemmygrad.ml, or ofc Lemmy.ml.
After a random comment in hexbear.net - in a post found by browsing All - and then again in Lemmygrad.ml, I almost left the Threadiverse myself. Instead, I merely left Lemmy for PieFed for a couple years before wanting to try a bunch of 3rd-party apps.
We’ve all had those kinds of experiences, so it is no wonder why people left and now talk about us behind our back as if we tolerate tankie toxicity - i.e. we are a tankie bar - bc we do, and we are, and they simply find that unacceptable.
bOtH sIdEs SaMe.
/r/RedditAlternatives
Hopefully. I am already on both sites (though on reddit I hardly ever start new threads and only use it on desktop) and would love getting opportunities to talk about all the topics here that I currently talk about only on reddit.
It is so incredible. I used to think the main threat to a free and open Internet was copyright. Then in the mid-2010s the talking points against it shifted to misinformation and hate speech.
Now it’s age verification? How did we get here?
I think the biggest threat is all the billionaires who don’t want working class people getting together and agreeing with each other on the internet.
Everything you mentioned - misinformation, hate speech, age verification - works towards that same goal.
We have a winner
Old.Reddit is getting sign ins required too for “safety” reasons. So even my limited desktop browsing is going to be limited now.
wierdly i couldnt get around it on ironfox, it wont let me use old reddit at all. firefox with (old reddit, and sinkit, or yesterredit add on still works, and it blocks the login requirement still). the alternative is people using the alternative apps like redlib, or continuum.
