I live in Germany, and over here unless your employer can present a damn good safety critical reason for why you must be sober at work (e.g. operating heavy machinery) it’s not even legal to randomly drug test employees.
For your standard office job, or McDonalds cashier, or even high level office positions it would all be illegal for the employer to (randomly) drug test you.
As long as you’re not operating dangerous machinery, it’s none of your employers business what you do off the clock at home, even if that’s consuming illegal drugs. They can (obviously) ban you from being high at work, but they would reasonable suspicion to accuse of you violating that, and potentially trigger a test (which means effectively the thing that is banned is for your performance at work to be impaired by drugs. If you work equally well high as sober, and don’t reek of weed when you walk in, you can pretty much just work high without risk of much consequences)
All I know about Germany is that, aside from producing the world‘s most AWESOME gay porn, and having some extremely bizarre trash disposal laws, it is an confoundingly boring country.
But it’s nice to know that, aside from the outrageously restrictive drug laws, they don’t do on the job drug testing.
Im 46, and I’ve only had one job that didnt do a pre-employment drug test. But most of my jobs have involved machines that can hurt people if not handled right.
The only jobs I didn’t get a piss test were all retail/food service. Every professional job I’ve had (tech) has made me drop a UA. I may have had to study to pass the pre-employment test, but thankfully no place I’ve been does randoms.
As my former manager put it, boss man isn’t going to make us drop a UA cuz he knows he’s lose his whole IT department.
I worked in a little fabrication shop back in 2013 or so. The general manager got a hair up his ass and decided he was going to drug test everyone.
We lost everyone on all three shifts except for me, and my supervisor. My supervisor had been picked up a month prior for possession, and was getting regular drug tests from someone else. Im just boring.
The shop closed down a few months later. They couldn’t get anyone to work there, because people who do that kind of work talk to each other.
I’m 46 and my line of work is one of the more dangerous jobs involving heavy equipment. There is always a drug test as a pre employment screening, but that’s basically it. Nobody checks again because they’d have to fire half the workforce.
There are some jobs for which I can understand when it would be very important to ensure the operators of heavy equipment absolutely must be guaranteed to be sober at all times.
Beyond heavy machine operators, this also includes livery drivers, airline pilots, etc.
But those are specialty jobs for which my previous comments are excluded.
Don’t forget Healthcare and insurance. I only know insurance because I have an uncle that has said he’d start micro dosing just to help him sleep but that could result in loss of his license
I’m skeptical that’s what we’re actually testing for, though. Employment drug tests are just to see if they’ll stop doing drugs for a month. We don’t expect heavy machine operators to do a field sobriety test at the start of their shift.
Yeah, most restaurants dont test for drugs for a reason.
On the flip side, I’ve had to take a drug test for every single job I’ve ever had. Most are sales related. But I travel for work so I kind of understand the need 10 years ago when everything was illegal. Now that weed is mostly legal everywhere its pointless to even test for it.
I work with a vulnerable population. In addition to every job doing piss testing my fingerprints and DNA get recorded and checked against unsolved assaults / murders. Nothing ever comes up but I always worry I’m gonna be like the last person that touched a vase before the dude that bashed somebody’s head in with it and the dude who did it isn’t in any databases and I’m gonna have to answer a bunch of intrusive questions.
I have been drug tested several times, and I am in fact “on drugs”. So, I get a call within a couple of days of getting tested to provide them with access to my pharmacy records to prove they are legally prescribed.
So, wtf were they doing that you got 6 weeks?
Same, and once I even got into a position where I was told I was free to sue a potential employer because they dismissed me without giving an opportunity to present proof of prescription
Apparently it fell out of my pocket on a Monday morning (doubtful but I did head home for the weekend and blacked out a bit so possible…but I would have done the coke if that was the case 😂) got dragged into a meeting on Wednesday, pissed clean and just got told to go home until I heard otherwise.
😂 I don’t live in the best area and my dog is an early morning boy, I’ve found 3 grams this month. Kinda feel sorry for whoever lost it but I’m also no longer a fan so hopefully that might help someone
I have and am 43 and it was the most miserable day at work I’ve had. I worked 2nd shift and walked into a mass screening. I clocked in and was fine. About 20 minutes later, I really had to pass badly, but the bathrooms were being dedicated to pass tests. There was one person completely refusing to take the test. It go bad, like really bad. I eventually had to say “If you don’t either pass test me or let me in the bathroom, I am making a mess right here and now, uncontrollablly.” to my boss’s face. They thankfully saw reason and let me go test. The guy that refused was promptly fired. His refusal was idiotic because there would have been no real repercussions - my boss even had a bad history with coccinellids, and would have just written him up. It was a sad day.
Nobody fucking tells me when I can piss. I am the sole authority over my own bodily functions.
It was a sad day because you and so many of your coworkers handed that over to any authority at all. You fucking cowards. You gave them the power to abuse you. then you had the temerity to come here and rationalize it.
Yeah, fuck off with that. Do not come at me with that bullshit. You instantly commented. Maybe, just fucking maybe I was and am completely stuck in a horrid capitalist country and was required to do so to eat. You don’t know me or the full situation. How does the fucking fascist authoritarian dick taste from willfully being on a piefed instance that hasn’t forked away from that? Nobody told me I couldn’t piss, I was doing the normal human thing of following expected social norms. I am going to do myself the traditional favor I do and not block you, but flag you as someone that not only maybe has it out for anarchism in general, but a potential bot since your comment was instant, accusatory, and vapid.
I am 47, and I have never not once been tested for drugs for work.
For most of my jobs, I’m relatively certain that drugs were in fact required.
If anyone tried to test me for drugs, I would tell them to go fuck themselves, and I’d happily walk away from the interview.
I live in Germany, and over here unless your employer can present a damn good safety critical reason for why you must be sober at work (e.g. operating heavy machinery) it’s not even legal to randomly drug test employees.
For your standard office job, or McDonalds cashier, or even high level office positions it would all be illegal for the employer to (randomly) drug test you.
As long as you’re not operating dangerous machinery, it’s none of your employers business what you do off the clock at home, even if that’s consuming illegal drugs. They can (obviously) ban you from being high at work, but they would reasonable suspicion to accuse of you violating that, and potentially trigger a test (which means effectively the thing that is banned is for your performance at work to be impaired by drugs. If you work equally well high as sober, and don’t reek of weed when you walk in, you can pretty much just work high without risk of much consequences)
All I know about Germany is that, aside from producing the world‘s most AWESOME gay porn, and having some extremely bizarre trash disposal laws, it is an confoundingly boring country.
But it’s nice to know that, aside from the outrageously restrictive drug laws, they don’t do on the job drug testing.
a handful of my jobs they knew i was heavily medicated and were offering me more drugs (part time office work in between surgeries)
I have told prosprective employers to fuck off over:
take a drug test
Take a psych test
Unlock my credit for credit checks
Take a full face scan
Register with id.me for the application process
Im 46, and I’ve only had one job that didnt do a pre-employment drug test. But most of my jobs have involved machines that can hurt people if not handled right.
The only jobs I didn’t get a piss test were all retail/food service. Every professional job I’ve had (tech) has made me drop a UA. I may have had to study to pass the pre-employment test, but thankfully no place I’ve been does randoms.
As my former manager put it, boss man isn’t going to make us drop a UA cuz he knows he’s lose his whole IT department.
Ok, storytime!
I worked in a little fabrication shop back in 2013 or so. The general manager got a hair up his ass and decided he was going to drug test everyone.
We lost everyone on all three shifts except for me, and my supervisor. My supervisor had been picked up a month prior for possession, and was getting regular drug tests from someone else. Im just boring.
The shop closed down a few months later. They couldn’t get anyone to work there, because people who do that kind of work talk to each other.
Ah, middle manglement problems, gotta
lovetolerate that shit…You’re telling me the general manager couldn’t pick up that slack? Sounds like he needs to have a word with himself
Construction and health care. All required prescreening drug tests, and all my jobs in healthcare had us subject to randoms.
In my case it was fabrication shops and machine shops. But exactly like you say.
I’m 46 and my line of work is one of the more dangerous jobs involving heavy equipment. There is always a drug test as a pre employment screening, but that’s basically it. Nobody checks again because they’d have to fire half the workforce.
There are some jobs for which I can understand when it would be very important to ensure the operators of heavy equipment absolutely must be guaranteed to be sober at all times.
Beyond heavy machine operators, this also includes livery drivers, airline pilots, etc.
But those are specialty jobs for which my previous comments are excluded.
Thank you for doing your job well, and soberly
I used to run lasers capable of cutting 19mm steel plate. Have to be sober for that!
Yeah, that old chestnut
Don’t forget Healthcare and insurance. I only know insurance because I have an uncle that has said he’d start micro dosing just to help him sleep but that could result in loss of his license
I’m skeptical that’s what we’re actually testing for, though. Employment drug tests are just to see if they’ll stop doing drugs for a month. We don’t expect heavy machine operators to do a field sobriety test at the start of their shift.
A lot of those jobs are subject to random screenings
For a given value of “random”.
A lot of places that did random drug screens, I would be “randomly” chosen every time because they knew I’d pass.
Yeah, most restaurants dont test for drugs for a reason.
On the flip side, I’ve had to take a drug test for every single job I’ve ever had. Most are sales related. But I travel for work so I kind of understand the need 10 years ago when everything was illegal. Now that weed is mostly legal everywhere its pointless to even test for it.
I work with a vulnerable population. In addition to every job doing piss testing my fingerprints and DNA get recorded and checked against unsolved assaults / murders. Nothing ever comes up but I always worry I’m gonna be like the last person that touched a vase before the dude that bashed somebody’s head in with it and the dude who did it isn’t in any databases and I’m gonna have to answer a bunch of intrusive questions.
Anytime I have worked for fintech I’ve been tested and fully background checked every time, pretty annoying but the trade off is the pay I suppose
“No coke in this guy’s system, rejected.”
Damn that made me laugh,if only that was the case I’m sure the coffee budgets at work would be cocaine budgets instead lol
If I wanna buy blow in whatever city I’m visiting, I always ask a bartender or a waiter for a hook up.
It’s a rule I refer to as “industry standard”
I’m 36 and have been drugs tested once. They reckoned they’d seen me drop a gram of coke on camera so I got 6 weeks paid holiday.
I have been drug tested several times, and I am in fact “on drugs”. So, I get a call within a couple of days of getting tested to provide them with access to my pharmacy records to prove they are legally prescribed.
So, wtf were they doing that you got 6 weeks?
Same, and once I even got into a position where I was told I was free to sue a potential employer because they dismissed me without giving an opportunity to present proof of prescription
Apparently it fell out of my pocket on a Monday morning (doubtful but I did head home for the weekend and blacked out a bit so possible…but I would have done the coke if that was the case 😂) got dragged into a meeting on Wednesday, pissed clean and just got told to go home until I heard otherwise.
Obviously, because nobody oopsie-daisies a gram of coke without going back to grab it, lol.
😂 I don’t live in the best area and my dog is an early morning boy, I’ve found 3 grams this month. Kinda feel sorry for whoever lost it but I’m also no longer a fan so hopefully that might help someone
So… Where do you live? Please drop a pin on a map and reply only in a DM.
I’ll drop by and bring snacks!
Not sure how to drop a pin but I’ve just dm’d you my what3words. What snacks are you bringing?
I have and am 43 and it was the most miserable day at work I’ve had. I worked 2nd shift and walked into a mass screening. I clocked in and was fine. About 20 minutes later, I really had to pass badly, but the bathrooms were being dedicated to pass tests. There was one person completely refusing to take the test. It go bad, like really bad. I eventually had to say “If you don’t either pass test me or let me in the bathroom, I am making a mess right here and now, uncontrollablly.” to my boss’s face. They thankfully saw reason and let me go test. The guy that refused was promptly fired. His refusal was idiotic because there would have been no real repercussions - my boss even had a bad history with coccinellids, and would have just written him up. It was a sad day.
How does that Nazi dick taste?
Nobody fucking tells me when I can piss. I am the sole authority over my own bodily functions.
It was a sad day because you and so many of your coworkers handed that over to any authority at all. You fucking cowards. You gave them the power to abuse you. then you had the temerity to come here and rationalize it.
Classic victim behavior
Yeah, fuck off with that. Do not come at me with that bullshit. You instantly commented. Maybe, just fucking maybe I was and am completely stuck in a horrid capitalist country and was required to do so to eat. You don’t know me or the full situation. How does the fucking fascist authoritarian dick taste from willfully being on a piefed instance that hasn’t forked away from that? Nobody told me I couldn’t piss, I was doing the normal human thing of following expected social norms. I am going to do myself the traditional favor I do and not block you, but flag you as someone that not only maybe has it out for anarchism in general, but a potential bot since your comment was instant, accusatory, and vapid.
Wow. How pathetic.
Marching into the gas chambers, while still defending the Nazis who shoved you in there.
“I had no choice but to let them exterminate me!”
I guess some people will never learn…
I am not going to engage with someone that attempts to paint me as a fucking Nazi from an anecdote.
I never even heard of “anarchist Nexus”, whatever that is
But go on and keep defending Nazis and how they stole your body autonomy, like a wife who defends the husband that beats her…
No replies at all for evidence of this account being a zionazi. I suppose I digress.
What “evidence”?
Your petty deflections are nothing but that
I dunno, the modlog I posted?
Oh fucking look, the idiot/bot that replied within seconds has nothing to say all of a sudden trying to mark an anarchist as a Nazi.
Funny how you called yourself out for being an idiot/bot
😂
It seems that your AI chat buddy doesn’t understand the concept of comment hierarchies… Lol
…what?
Was that too complicated for your grok prompt?
Lol