got the notification to verify my age when trying to access NSFW posts or profiles already for a few weeks now, but as of today my whole account is blocked unless I verify. I guess that’s it then. Based in Austria btw, so there is no specific law in place that forces Reddit to implement this and I will definetly not give my personal information to Persona, a company that belongs to Peter Thiels Palantir group.
Welcome to lemmy!
Better late then never. Welcome to the party.
no porn for you 🎻
I guess you haven’t read the text under my screenshot - this doesn’t happen on NSFW subs or posts anymore, I cannot access ANYTHING anymore, the complete account is blocked unless I verify.
is it reddit doing something drastic recently? seen an uptick .
they are continuing to digg their own grave.
you need to take a photo of your balls to use reddit now and new accounts cannot login to old reddit as this feature is now restricted to only existing accounts that are older
It’s better here anyway. Spez has banned everyone and there’s only bots left.
I already made this account a while ago, but never really got into Lemmy so much, since it’s so damn hard to post videos here - that is the main reason I still used Reddit more - you can just drop videos there without having to use other video platforms that require you to make an account too,…
debatable that it’s better here, the ideal is to use nothing.
sure, it’s a lot less fashy on lemmy, but goddamn there are some shockingly dense motherfuckers on this website that are worse than redditors. the top comment on basically every article posted to lemmy is someone aggressively and angrily asking a deeply ignorant rhetorical question for attention, and it’s usually answered by the article. at least reddit sometimes has a decent comment at the top.
i swear half of lemmy is just people going “i literally don’t understand this simple thing and it’s also the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard” when in reality it’s just a bunch of people inside of a social bubble that don’t understand the actual world around them, like, at all. and i don’t mean just politically, i mean generally.
never going back to reddit but there are just so many shamefully stupid people on lemmy, it’s grating.
I literally don’t understand how you could just come out and say the stupidest thing in the world ;)
Yeah lemming’s brains are melted. Literacy in the bit.
Commenting on an article without reading it should carry the penalty of a day in the stocks.
you can block those instances, and communities. tankies are the worst, and a few instances for some reaso blahaj will ban you for anything too.
ehhh. the nsfw community is a bit lacking. which, like it or not, drives user engagement and boosts content creation.
We defederated the NSFW instance because they allow a fauxbait community.
What is fauxbait, you may wonder? Well, you’ve probably heard of jailbait, which is nudes of children who look like adults. Fauxbait is faux jailbait. It’s nudes of adults who look like children who look like adults.
And often these are regular consenting adult porn models, who look like adults, but some pervert went “nyehehe these women look like children” and posted them to this community. And I think that’s degrading and harmful to these women’s livelihoods. I wouldn’t want someone to look at My boobs and decide I looked like a kid.
Furthermore, according to Australian law, framing a picture as child porn (or fake child porn) makes it child porn. It’s kinda the same problem as the 4000 year old dragon who looks like a little girl.
Is it better than r/jailbait and all the pedo shit on Reddit? Sure. But it’s still pedo shit, and I want a social network with zero pedo shit.
cool.
I will not play games that require tpm and secure boot, and I will not use software that requires any sort of identity verification to use. the internet is simply a tool for entertainment for most of my uses, communication is optional.
Redlib if you must keep using Reddit. If not, alternative forums, fediverse included, invite you.
At this point, it doesn’t make any sense to use Reddit at all. Just go to the Lemmy and the fediverse.
Or if you hate yourself, you can also try 9gag, there’s not much difference now between that and Reddit.
That’s what I do when I get a notice like this. Accept that I just move on.
It’s always interesting to see what it takes for someone to leave reddit. It wasn’t all the bullshit before, but this is was over the line for this user. How much more can they keep getting away with before a tipping point? The standards people have today are so eroded.
It’s like the boiling frog problem
You need to remember there’s addiction involved too. That will cause people to accept more awful than they normally would.
the new UI is the doom scroll addiction nonsense, that reddits is tried to force.
The last straw for me was getting rid of sorting by Hot on my main feed, effectively making it useless. I don’t want to sort by Best that shows posts from days ago, get that Facebook shit out of here. Also there was a new tab that interspersed “recommended posts” in your main feed. It’s an option now but I doubt it would be in the future. The point of having a curated feed is to see shit you’re subscribed to, not whatever engagement slop is on r/popular.
reddit definitely made a change months ago , that shows you old post. they want people to engage with older posts, that are useless.
ah! That explains why I had day-old posts suddenly creep up in my feed, I was already wondering about that …
For me it was new reddit, saw what was coming and spent a lot less time there (yes I used old mode still), then the API changes and mass banning of subreddits sealed the deal. Never returned.
on mobile they are far more intrusive, when you backspace they reload the page, and sends you to the top of the feed on old mobile, and zooms in for no reason, its designed to make old reddit as unpleasant as possible so you are forced to use the new reddit UI, which is worst, because in the newer one, it eventually slows the loading page for so long you have to close the browser to reset it. they eventually want people to use the APP, so they can datamine your device as well.
Proves that convenience is the stopper. Steam and netflix can attest. Make it hard, I’ll hit the high seas.
Dude pull your head out of your ass. There are things on reddit that there are no replacements for. Lemmy doesn’t hold a candle to the user base of reddit. The standard is simply “is this useful to me” and it’s not hard to understand why people find value there.
Fucking holier than though dipshit.
*thou
🙏
My idiocy is on full display. Thanks for the correction.
And you wonder why things are the way they are…
I didn’t think there was anyone left on Reddit but bots
The oldest redditors got shadow banned because their posts were too valuable to the IPO to show up as blocked or deleted user (the story varries, but my friend ended up getting banned for joking about putting a lock on one of those uhauls full of proud boys (back when they were renting uhauls before Uhaul said they couldn’t anymore)
Those of us here originally, are the ones who deleted their accounts, contrary to what reddit believed would happen.
I know at least one of you will read this, and I am here to receive a powerful high five.
I know two people still using it. Thing is, quite a lot of gaming communities are pretty much dead here, while there are still enough flesh and bone users on reddit (plus eight times as many bots, but there will always be someone to respond within a day if you have a question).
Of course it’s not like there are only these two options and nothing else, but where would you go to for decently paced discussion? Honest question: I had left reddit a long time ago, but I won’t find pre-existing answers on Lemmy for a good number of games, and most of the communities here seem to be bone dry.
nsfw especially on reddit filled with bots more than other subs.
I assume they only require people to verify, and they let the bots roam freely without any supervision or am I wrong and it will remove bots from Reddit?
no you’re correct. reddit corp does NOT want to do anything about its bot infestation. even the apipocalypse carved out exceptions for the botnets that make their entire platform function.
bot content spew keeps doomscrollers doomscrolling and pumps up the metrics that they’re intentionally manipulating to appear like organic traffic. having their cake and eating it too, even to the very end of everything the platform used to stand for
thier purges last year did a huge number on thier engagement thought, they overcompensated, and then open-ai and google stopped scraping so now they are tyring to force logins so people can be datamined again.
I’m convinced this is true. Ever since the big redesign in 2018 (holy shit was it really eight years ago?) that kind of homogenized the whole platform, it became clear that the people reddit was trying to attract was not the communities but the mindless scrollers.
But the paradox was that some person had to want to post the content and make it feel alive, but that person is not needed anymore.
Facebook is entirely slop, scams, and bottom of the barrel memes but they make billions from attracting the dumbest users who will click on ads and that’s where reddit wants to be.
2018 is when propagana bots/troll farms started to appear , and thats when they started banning significantly even for the slightest misunderstanding, it obviously got worst overtime.
same reason mr musk cried about bots on twitter constantly and promised to wipe them out only to make it more artificial and manipulated than it ever has been (i’m told)
I was being snarky. I have no idea how the bot accounts on Reddit are organized or managed, I’m just some dude.
the individual users who spam, would have a bunch of device they operate with multiple(dozens) of accounts each using services to host multiple browser instances at once, to seperate accounts from each other, so they dont get immediately connected by reddits filters. also multiple IP from different sources at once, and yes they spend money to do this, and this seperate the propaganda bots/spammers you hear done by countries.
I was being snarky as well, and not towards you.
In some circumstances I would actually stand behind user verification on Reddit/Reddit-like forum.
If that meant:
no bots, if you can really be sure that a user is a real person,
real freedom of speech, with real consequences for real people that abuse it (perma ban doesn’t mean much if you can just create a new account).
no flood of low quality AI content.
elimination of troll farms and institutional propaganda accounts…
But knowing current corporations, I am sure, the control applies only to us insignificant people, organized farms will keep on flooding, maybe some of them will have to pay to Reddit (those who didn’t already).
I don’t really have that much of a problem with the age verification as it is - my problem is that the only means to do so is giving my personal information to Persona, a very shady company with a not so good data protection record (they are part of Peter Thiels Palantir group, I guess that says it all).
There’s real people on there but they’re extremely difficult to differentiate between the bots. Everybody on there sounds the same.
You need to create an alias and not forget it, so you can use a completely different “person” on these shitty sites. I’ve got a dozen email addresses with names, birthplaces, dates, etc. never know who I am.
Fingerprinting knows
Multiple vpns, paid and free, adblocking and blocking tracking at DNS level, ublock origin, different browsers and operating systems. Good luck. I probably look like some frankenstein user.
And even if you do fingerprint it, you’re fingerprinting a useless alias, so who cares.
IIRC they can fingerprint you based on your writing style and interests.
thats not all they do, they look at your browser , timezones. how long you linger on a page on reddit and if you are scrolling or commenting, up and downvoting.
The more intricate your configuration, the easier you are to fingerprint. Because nobody else has your exact configuration. For it to not matter, you have to have a sufficiently complex unique fingerprint for every instance of being fingerprinted.
Cookies for the masses, fingerprints for everyone else. It is actually quite difficult to truly be anonymous on the internet today.
Well you do you, I’ll do me.
I wasn’t suggesting you do otherwise. Just trying to keep folks informed.
If you’re interested in fingerprinting, check out this site. It will tell you how sites see your exact configuration.
I tried it. Unfortunately it is wrong in several of statements about my machine. Since it cannot detect the specifics of my machine nor its settings, one can conclude that either this website is wrong or my settings for protection work well. Hard to fingerprint someone when their are inaccuracies.
I miss some of the people on Reddit, but I don’t miss Reddit.
In time, they’ll appear here (or in similar places).
I’m never going back.
they are too forgettable to memorable, the only ones i missed were the ones in a niche sub, now defunct.
Remembering other people is something I only had on the old forums before everything got piled into one huge site. Back then the group was small and you actually talked to the same people regulary. Now I don’t even notice usernames anymore.
Miss you too, bud
I know a handful of people that tried Lemmy at my insistence but found the overall culture even more insufferable than reddit and honestly I don’t even blame them. I fear that a lot of folks here are so desperate to “beat reddit” that they are willing to tolerate the most repulsive behaviors and it’s only going to push the mature people away.
I hope I’m wrong, but for someone who doesn’t care about decentralization, being “not reddit” is really all I can see that we have going for us.
People like that exist, but I just block them and move on and i really can’t overstate how much that changes the experience.
Unfortunately, Lemmy doesn’t have great mechanisms for avoiding harassment or toxicity - the ethos of free speech prevents the creators from wanting to allow users to hide their posts from others (a common solution implemented on other platforms).
Because of that, I get inbox notifications from blocked users sometimes (that I can’t see unless I unblock them), so I just -> Mark all as read. Negativity gone.
On the flip side of toxicity, I’ve found fewer toxic mods that rule comms like their own little fiefdom to arbitrarily police (only a single one so far) - on Reddit it was pretty common to encounter.
Yeah I fully agree re: blocking at an individual level, but I’m just saying I also understand why someone may encounter the fediverse and be turned away at the prospect of putting in so much work just to even see if they like it. Admins need to step up too.
reddits own bot/slop tells them what they want to hear thats why. i think the thing is reddit still has niche subs, that hasnt been impacted by the bots that much, hence its better than some ways. lemmy is too small and the largest communities are politics mostly.
Culture in what communities? Because I mainly subscribe to tech and games and haven’t noticed a difference.
Same on reddit where people here talk about how they’ve been banned, but I just follow tech, games, and niche hobby subs there and not the big subs.
But, if someone is engaging in news related communities I could see how culture might be more negative. But, that’s been the case for all social media for that matter when it comes to heated topics.
define mature.
do you just mean people you agree with?
what do you regard as ‘repulsive’ behaviour?
when I was on reddit there were active sexual predators exploiting people on some subs and some of them were mods. nobody thought that was repulsive.
Hah well… for starters I would say emotionally mature people don’t tend to make demands of the people they’re replying to.
The bad ones can be banned 🤷♀️
Totally but in practice they’re not, and that’s the issue, imo. We’re halfway to being Voat with a trans-flag colored paint job
Honestly, a VPN is a good investment in your online safety anyway and would bypass this age verification bullshit. We have it in Australia too. Philippines don’t.
VPN works for me so far, but like I said in another comment: I use reddit mostly on my work laptop and am not allowed to use VPN there …
Can you not install browser extensions? I can on my work laptop (on either Edge or Chrome - they don’t allow other alternatives), but obviously they’re all locked down differently
on mobile you can. i use sinkit and old reddit, and you can force reddit to be usable in old format on your page.
no, not even browser extensions or even different browsers - it’s pretty restricted
Reddit blocks a shit ton of vpns
I’ve used mullvad and airvpn recently and both worked fine for me
I tried signing up with a throwaway protonmail via mullvad browser and VPN and was shadownbanned from day 1.
Maybe they have different rules for new accounts or something then. That said, I would expect a one day old account to require approval (which would appear to be shadowbanned from the user perspective), it’s a very common automod filter.
Why are people still on reddit? Might as well go join Truth Social or X if you care that little about what you’re contributing to.
no niche communities here, plus other large subs have no equivalent here.
Not all communities have an equivalent here.
Create those communities or post in other existing communities with a similar topic.
I know it’s annoying if you are the first one and no one react to the content but someone has to start.
Use ublock origin element zapper tool
not able to use that on my company laptop sadly …
Yet you can use reddit?
yeah, I was also surprised but it works. I guess I could also argue that I would need it for research ;)
