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    Now he will get to enjoy a nice decade of interruption free Bible study time! This is actually a huge win for him.

    Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.

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    I will never understand how one can have so much money and success just to throw it all away for something so stupid and vile.

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      Stop thinking of money as an abstract thing, its simply power. And power has many forms, ability to influence and control others, control governance, do what you want as you want, have your opinion heard over others, control others, etc. People need to stop considering rich people as people with money, theyre people with unfretted power and those people are generally wicked.

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      You don’t understand why successful people would sleep with groupies? Or that if you sleep with 400 groupies a year, for several years, and then become politically inconvenient, that someone is going to be able to organize convincing 1 or more in 6400 women to retroactively reverse their consent 20 years later?

      To me it all seems pretty easy to understand.

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        Shitheads who spread this “women are liars” incel garbage are why so few rapes ever reach trial in the first place.

        You really need to get yourself removed from whatever manosphere poison you’ve found yourself in, because it’s turning you into a terrible person. There’s no reason to believe a completely unfounded, unsupported conspiracy theory over the sworn court testimony of six victims plus many others who spoke out in public, other than pure vile misogyny.

        Or maybe you want people to disbelieve women because you’ve got an unfortunate history of your own?

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        I feel like assholes who want fame and fortune are the core issue. When they get it, they’re then able to be assholes to other people and get away with it.

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      Money is power, and power corrupts. People come to think they are above law, and unfortunately, it is often the case.

      I’d like to think I’d fuck off to some remote cabin personally, never to be heard from again.

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    The guy behind him is a copy. At least give him 5 years too, just to make sure shit doesn’t repeat itself.

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        I hope not. I however am unfamiliar with the UK justice system, praying that they’re not as susceptible to the wealthy wiggling their way out of punishment like in the USA.

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    The conservative sub was malding over this.

    Like, was he even known for his politics? I knew him as a weird actor whose primary vehicle for comedy was just being a weird oddball. They really will just defend any sex criminal?

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      A brilliant Aussie comic called Brendan Burns said “he looks like the personification of hepatitis” and I hear that every time I see these headlines

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      He started as an Essex new-age festival kiddie type with hippie-left politics. Then he went down the conspiracy rathole (staring with anti-vaxx bullshit) and ended up a fascist. It’s not clear to me if that was mainly due to drug-induced massive gullibility or the realization that there were lots of opportunities for grift on the right.

      I don’t accept horseshoe theory in general, but it is definitely possible to traverse the fact-free fringe all the way from peace and love to full-scale fascism.

      Edit: the profile he really fits (leaving out the rape) is “I used to be all fucked up on drugs. Now I’m all fucked up on the Lord.”

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      He was a very prominent left-wing figure, and then-Labour leader Ed Milliband visited him at home to ask for his endorsement in the 2015 election.

      Since his behaviour became more publicly known, he took a dive to the far right and has appeared in public with the likes of Fucker Carlson.

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      He was an outspoken Leftist campaigner in the early 2010s. Then when more and more stories started getting spread about his rapey antics, nobody on the Left would talk to him any more and he had to go find some new friends.

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      He started being very US politics on his podcast for a bit and then he switched over to Christianity and conservative grift.

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        am I imagining it or did he do a baptism with jd vance?

        I’m fairly sure he was being groomed to be peter thiel’s new pope

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        I guess I just missed all that. I would see a random clip from him on Fox here and there but didn’t realize he was “known” for politics

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      yea he is, at least the start of covid he pivoted hard, i kept seeing him on my feed unintentionally, and when not logging in youtube during that time. he probably suspected this was going to happen eventually.

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    How bloody infuriating is it that I’m STILL arguing with people who are confidently saying that he was stitched up! They aren’t the brightest but still they seem to ignore his financial might thrown into his legal defences. What do those morons think they know that the court is missing?

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      Defending random celebrities is always weird to me. Can you believe that he would do that? Well yes, i’m not in a parasocial relationship with them.

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    Glad he’s doing Timey Wime.

    Take a look at Stewart Lee’s standup routine bit on Russell Brand from years ago, it’s hilarious!

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    “Under English law, the maximum sentence for rape is life imprisonment, and 10 years for one count of sexual assault, according to Britain’s sentencing council.”

    This guy got basically sentenced for one + half a year of the 3 assaults and not caunting the 1 rape

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          he shouldve went hard into islam like tate is, especially with how woman are viewed under incel muslim/fundamentalism.

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            The fundamental Christian he was pretending to be don’t treat them any better.

            Kegsbtrath’s pastor thinks if they’re married, they shouldnt vote.

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          It will be interesting to see how he goes.

          I have found that, nowadays if media exposure gets taken away, a lot of people tend to chill out and drift more left leaning. Right leaning thinking for many tends to require constant nudging to keep people in that camp. So being isolated from that feed might do him some good. It will at least do the world some good.

          I’m not saying, “take away the media and all is well” but there is a section of society that is heavily swayed by it.

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            It does sound, though, like you’re saying “take away the propaganda channels and the right will dry up and blow away.”

            That might be true. Nice if so.

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            a lot of people aren’t rapists either, regardless of media exposure

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              Very true. I don’t expect that drive in him to change much beyond any kind of self introspection. But maybe his divisive rhetoric changes. Or he just become vindictive and it just gets much worse.

              Honestly, I am just sick of talking about Brand. He is a odd manipulative sex pest goblin, goodbye to him.

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      Those are maximum sentences for Category 1 though, and would be given for extreme cases.

      It looks like Brand was sentenced on a Category 2 rape, which has a starting point of 10y custody.

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    Good, one more rapey, creepy, rich cunt not walking the streets. Now if only the US would start doing the same things to our rich, rapey cunts. We should start with the orange molester in chief.

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      That doesn’t buy you anything in the UK legal system. Very limited opportunity to suck up to fundie judges over here, except possibly in Northern Ireland or western Scotland.

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      Jeez. I was about to say the opposite, that he fits the conservative xtian stereotype pretty well. But both statements look correct to me.

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        I don’t remember very well right now but I think when I used to watch him in conversations from like 15 years ago I’m pretty sure he was doing the enlightened atheist stuff. At the very least I’m almost certain his philosophy ramblings never mentioned god, it would’ve turned me off him even way back then.

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          He was!!! Then the whole space turned against because of the rape stuff came out. Turns out people who think about morality don’t wanna follow a rapist.

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      he took too long to convert, shouldve done it before covid, then he has a base where he can gauge reactions from.

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      Honestly 10 years feels like roughly the right amount of time, assuming it’s actually 10 years in prison and not 18 months in a celebrity daycamp.

      People change a lot in prison. Even a year or two. 10 years of prison later he will be a very very very different person, and I don’t think an additional 5+ years would really make much of a difference.

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        Yeah, it just also needs to be focusing on rehabilitation during those 10 years. We need to work to ensure the changes are for the better

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        I was reading that in the UK this translates to 5 years before being eligible for parole.

        Which is still a lot for someone who is used to the lifestyle / comfort that Brand had.

        I personally feel like 10 full years in prison isn’t enough, but I’m not a judge. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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          I really just goes to the “Is prison a punishment, a rehabilitation system, or a deterrence”. If someone isn’t rehabilitated after 10 years, then they also won’t be after 20 (IMO). And there are lots of studies that show lengthy sentences don’t really function as a deterrence due to human brains poorly conceptualizing 5 vs 10 vs 15 vs 20 years. At some point it’s just “A long time in jail” and advocating for 10 vs 20 years doesn’t benefit the deterrence aspect. Also, your average violent criminal isn’t thinking “Well I WOULD rape her if it was only 5 years, but since it will be 10, I won’t”

          So then it’s just about punishment. And 10 years in jail is a very very intense punishment. Forced to choose, I would take a LOT of other punishments to not have to spend the next 10 years in jail which, for what it’s worth, often leads to rape from others in the prison.

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            From working in some prisons not in America the rwpe isn’t really a thing anymore. There are enough willing people.

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              According to this

              The survey of 27,541 state and federal inmates found that some 4.1 percent of adult prison inmates reported being sexually victimized in state and federal prisons during the prior 12 months

              So yeah still quite common. At least in American federal prisons.

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            So then it’s just about punishment.

            Well, no. It’s mainly about keeping the public safe from his continuing predations.

            Amazing you left that out, when not being free to roam and hurt others is the primary issue survivors care about, and they ALL sleep better when their attacker is behind bars. How is that benefit to society even missing?

            I don’t give two shits what happens to him personally, but from the moment of remand forward, the number of women he will be able to rape drops immediately from unlimited to pretty much zero.

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              Yeah that’s a fair point. No point in being a dick about it though.

              I don’t give two shits what happens to him personally

              So, if there was a magic wand that made every rape convict magically incapable of sexual violence, you would be ok with them being set free with no time served?

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                That’s a nonsensical equivalence. Saying I don’t care about what happens to Brand personally != not caring about his personal effect on other individuals or society. That I do, and specifically how, I have already made clear.

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          The judge stated a minimum term of 7 years before he can apply for release on licence. He will be on the sex offenders register for life, forever having to report his whereabouts, every time he moves address etc.

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              The better question is which countries actually give a sentenced, high-profile rapist without a cent on him and on parole the opportunity to move to them.

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        I was more meaning that there are other cases coming. But yeah, the sentence seems… sentencing is difficult. Can any time truly make up for violent crimes? But yet there must be serious consequences.

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      There’s already two more women who have come forward, and more are being encouraged to as well, so you got this right

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        yeah, exactly what I was meaning to reference. I mean, who knows, maybe these were the only incidents and he’s completely innocent of all the others.

        …seems extremely unlikely, though

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      I’m surprised it is that much. I know someone who went down for rape with someone under age and sexual misconduct with someone else underage and he got 6 years. Probably serve 4 years I guess, for permanently destroying two peoples’ lives. Ridiculous.