• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    Wait, wasn’t this obvious for couple of years already? We knew about the circlejerk between Nvidia and AI companies for quite some time now. What’s the news here?

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    While Jensen can’t be faulted for making these moves because he was keeping the best interests of the company in mind, it’s a stab in the back for gamers and hardware owners who are unable to locate any mouth-watering deals for GPUs or memory because of the perceived shortage.

    I really dislike this final paragraph. In one sentence, it both attempts to absolve Jensen of all fault in the current shortage, and frames gamers and hardware enthusiasts as entitled babies crying about the lack of amazing sales. Rather than the reality of high-end GPUs requiring you to take out a loan at this point, if you can even find one. I don’t need a “mouth-watering deal”, I’ll settle for affordable, thanks.

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      Crazy final paragraph. The whole article is about Nvidia has artificially created scarcity for its products by funding AI start ups to buy it’s products.

      It is effectively buying back its own products. This alongside the circular payment systems between AI companies and Nvidia is destined to end very very badly. It can only work while the market grows and share prices go up. It is destined to be one catastrophic collapse when things go the other way.

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        This is only possible because the stock market is a fucking Ponzi scheme

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      Few groups have been bigger apologists for their corporate abusers than capital-G Gamers. They would have followed Nvidia into hell itself so long as Huang blew even the thinnest wisps of smoke up their unwashed asses. Discovering that their hardware suppliers have only ever used them for their money has seriously hurt their egos and broken their brains.

      It’s like Gamers thought they were dating the most popular kid in school, only to discover that they were only hanging out with Gamers because Gamers’ mom had an old Mustang that she like them drive. Now they’re dating someone rich college student who owns a Porche, and they’re not returning Gamers’ calls, and they’re going through all of the phase of teenage grief.

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        And don’t forget tech “reviewers” like Linus who badmouth Nvidia and then only show their fucking GPUs in every video that isn’t an AMD benchmark

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        NAILED. IT. I’d love all the people who feel they have a right to video cards explain that to a Palestinian orphan.

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      It’s all the consumer’s fault for wanting to consume.

      Capitalism hurt itself in its confusion!

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      TIL no matter what you do it’s always justified as long as you’ve had your company’s interest on your mind

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      I mean bootlicking aside, they’re not wrong. Jensen’s a corpo and they will always chase profits. Sometimes stooping to borderline illegal maneuvers like this price fixing thing or the ram cartel. In an ideal world these fuckers would get prosecuted and do jail time, but as it stands we are somewhat at their whims. That’s why I don’t get this entitlement with affordable gpu’s - they’re high tech components and for a while they were more affordable but gamers are no longer the most profitable market so yhings change. There was no “betrayal” and no “abandonment” because no one owes gamers anything, just like they don’t owe the companies anything. Shit’s bkt affordable? Short of a class action lawsuit, tough luck, adapt and move on, because it looks like we’re heading back to the gpu wild west of the late 90s.

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    A handful of people in a recent thread tried to suggest to me that Huang at least still had gamers and hobbyists in his heart, whereas a new CEO likely wouldn’t. LOOOL. How’s that leather coat taste, coatlickers?

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      Turns out his CFO literally said “please stop putting all of our eggs in the AI basket and abandoning the gaming side” and got fucking mansplaining as a reward and told she was a deer in headlights. Jensen was the one that was fucking over the gamers who bootlick him at every turn.

      I hope they’re feeling betrayed.

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        Semi-reluctant AMD ‘fanboy’ here, have hated Nvidia for almost a decade now.

        All of this, where we are now with LLMs… this all started because Huang decided consumer grade GPUs can actually do full real time raytraced lighting, the movie grade shit that you normally do frame by frame with a farm of gpus.

        That didn’t work well, so, Neural Upscaling. That was also fairly shitty, so, gen 2 gen 3 gen 4 gen 5, still too shitty, framgen, multiframegen! Which is also often still shitty.

        Oh also, because Jensen says this is the new paradigm, uh, i guess fuck everything thats ever been done in terms of optimizing lighting in game engines, throw that all out, make it work with new paradigm.

        Oh thats basically fundamentally impossible to do sanely and performantly, on affordable hardware? Clearly you just don’t understand how to use Unreal Engine, what do you mean you don’t own a GPU that costs as much as your last entire PC builf?

        4k60fps ultra? Fuck you! That’ll be $4000.

        (not counting fake frames…)

        This is all Huang’s fault.

        And thats without even going into creating the largest financial bubble in the history of mankind which will pop into the Greatest Depression in recorded history, very likely end the USD’s status as world reserve currency.

        … so yeah, I semi-reluctantly ‘fanboy’ for AMD for a few reasons, some of those reasons being they didn’t initiate all of the above.

        Anyone who is an Nvidia fanboy is definitionally an idiot that understands nothing about this industry.

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          Yo! I’m also a “fan” of his cousin’s company for the same reasons as you. The Nvidia stans have gaslit me into thinking I was some kind of freak

          Your take needs to be in the history books that cover this fiasco

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        Fuck AMD too, the gamers fucking saved their asses during the Intel shit, kept them alive, and they give us “we’re data center first now”. Fuck all these giants right up the ass, time to crowd source our own lithos 🤣

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          Okay, say I agreed to build a GPU company from the ground up, with a Gamer’s first corporate policy - guaranteed by the fact that I’m a 55 year old disabled gamer who’s been playing almost since the very beginning of gaming (yeah, I played the fuck out of pong and the Atari 2600 as a kid and still game almost daily.) My only downside is my health, which isn’t great, but before I was forced to drop out due to health reasons, I almost finished my bachelor’s in video game development online. I lack exactly 3 classes to finish my degree. I also have 2 sons in high school who could eventually take over and would absolutely be in the Gamer’s first mindset. This is all hypothetical, but, would Gamers support a company like that, or raise hell everytime I made a decision gamers couldn’t all agree with, which would be all if them?

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        Nvidia’s been treating gamers like shit since they killed 3dfx and idiots still fanboy for them… If it hadn’t been supported by these idiots for all these years we probably wouldn’t have reached this situation

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    Trump admin killed the investigation into the spy thing last year as well. There is a lot hidden under the sex scandal, and why we keep hearing about more affairs instead of this stuff.

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    From the article:

    While Jensen can’t be faulted for making these moves because he was keeping the best interests of the company in mind,….

    I’m pretty sure he can be faulted for manipulating the market. 😂 I’m sure there is a law somewhere that says this is illegal. Maybe start looking at anti-trust laws.

    Unfortunately, the US hasn’t had a functioning government in over a decade.

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    While Jensen can’t be faulted for making these moves because he was keeping the best interests of the company in mind

    Who the fuck came up with this bullshit? OF COURSE we can fault them. That’s the same kind of logic as saying that we can’t fault the Nazis because they were “just doing their job”.

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    Haven’t we known that Nvidia was paying people to buy their hardware for a while now?

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    I bought 32GB not long ago and now I want 32GB more*. These buckets fuckheads (ducking autocorrect) represent everything wrong with the industry.

    *: Partially as a proverbial middle finger to piss off Sam LLMtman

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      Literally nothing, he wouldn’t have been able to do any of that without the board being, well, on board, and they chose a board member to temporarily replace him.

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        Colette Kress literally told him to stop putting too much emphasis on AI because it was ruining their finances. She got mansplaining from him as a result.

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          Do some short term capitalism bullshit they collectively decited to do. when it falls apart scapegoat the CEO, and replace him with someone else from that same board that was “totally against that idea”. How many times have we seen this exact same song and dance?

          i guess intentions don’t exactly matter if they really deem AI unprofitable and wish to sell to gamers again then so be it, but consumers should understand that these people do not have any loyalties other than money, and thinking otherwise is delusional.