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My thoughts about the military purges is that they’re a part of the fight against corruption.
With Xi being in his 70s it makes sense for him to also purge corruption from the army if he wants to avoid the state from falling into corrupt hands again like they have during Xiaoping’s rule and his successors.
It’s ridiculous that I’m downvoted by brigadiers for sharing a sensible explanation.
Because nothing says reasonable measures against corruption like secretly disappearing people without any sort of announcement leaving the world to blindly guess what went down. A lot of other authoritarian leaders at least bother to make up stuff, but not even that here.
I also think it’s interesting to say that in his 70s it makes sense to be harder on corruption, why wouldn’t there be a consistent pressure on corruption throughout?
If it is related to his age, it would make more sense that he is experiencing some mental decline that drives him to be more aggressive or that he wants to ensure his intended successors have the least opposition to worry about.
Oooor he’s just purging potential rivals like all really successful dictators.
It’s a fight against challenges to his power first and foremost.
That is what corruption is. He grew out of the princelings and has to tactically fight them so he isn’t overthrown himself.
I guess the 8 generals who are missing just went on a holiday together then?
Xi is not a stand-up dude trying to right all that’s wrong in China.
I’m not claiming that Xi is some hero.
But how do you know it’s not an anti-corruption sweep? Corrupt leaders deserve to be disappeared forever. Just like it should also happen to billionaires.
You can doubt the motives, but not the action.
I mean, that’s a pretty hard shift in the defense of your assertion.
You lead off strong with “I think it’s XYZ”, with no support, then when that’s challenged, you’re restating it in the framework of “you need to prove it’s not XYZ”.
Might as well have said the purge is because these guys liked raspberry donuts and Xi hates that flavor. Good luck proving that negative.
It can’t be anti-corruption because Xi is more corrupt than all of them.
I’m not familiar with the matter, but from the little i’ve learned of the article, it seems the general have just disappeared, right?
If it was corruption matters, that would be official, as it would be a good reason for a trial.
It’s common for people to be disappeared or disappear for a time for re-education. That’s what happened to Jack Ma when he stepped out of line.
China has more billionaires than the US and they don’t care about those either
Yeah okay, tankie
to avoid the state from falling into corrupt hands
That’s decades too late
He wasn’t in power decades ago.
Xi doesn’t hold a monopoly on corruption
Do you have any basis for this China hatred or is this just oh my God they have a social score for your life over there
Where did I show any hatred for China? Are you confusing criticism of the “Dear Leader” with hatred towards the country and its people? Maybe that implication was deliberate on your part.
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Lmfao. Xi is the corruption.
Do you have any facts to back this statement up?
Under Xi China has executed a lot more officials and politicians for corruption than before. Even tech moguls are removed unlike in the US where they’re invited to government.
Historically, heavily authoritarian leaders manage to find all sorts of “corruption” in their political enemies. Maybe it’s there and ignored until the people are a problem, or corpruption that is at odds with another corrupt interest, or sometimes just outright made up. Especially if the outcome is a lot of executions, that’s not generally a sign of integrity. See the French revolution where things came from a pretty sincere place but mass executions followed that weren’t exactly all justified or relevant to the situation.
You mention the US, and in a way that’s a decent example. Conveniently Trump administration found reason to use the FBI to raid a political enemy and has made rumblings about political enemies somehow deserving prosecution, inventing allegations as needed to make opposition look bad. So while they open the doors wide open for some corrupt billionaires to game the government to their advantage, they accuse others of various offenses including corruption. Pat of their efforts seem to be towards making it easier to carry out those legal threats.
Stalin burned through 4 secret police chiefs, all (or most? not sure about the first guy) of whom publicly confessed to horrible plotting against their country. By this measure, so much corruption solved!
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Reread your reply, as if you were a fascist dictator.
Corruption is a symptom of abuses from the top.
Corruption is also rooted out from the top or through popular revolution.
If you were at the head of a corrupt state and wanted to purge corruption, you’d have to be both tactical and ruthless.
Then can Xi tactically and ruthlessly root himself out?
He’s over 70, so soon enough yes.
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I don’t know what a vote bot is.
They are the same picture.
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I might get down voted too but I think i follow what you’re talking about
I had to look up a source again but I remember reading that they were having major equipment issues like rockets getting fueled with water and stuff like that.
If that is the case, then something like this doesn’t sound that surprising
China has corruption for sure. That in no way means only the most corrupt people get jailed for corruption. Misusing power is the nature of it.
I think, most likely, everyone in the picture has done a bit of corruption, including Xi, because that’s just life there. If not, jailing people for things they didn’t do in a show trial has a time-honoured history.
