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    I blame the truck manufacturers more than the poor, deluded shlubs who buy them. There used to be standards in the industry but “big” costs more so they make more money (initially…while pricing a whole class of citizens out of the market).

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      A truck is only slightly more expensive to produce than a sedan when all costs are taken into account, but can be sold at a higher price.

      The main difference between a truck and a sedan is a few hundred pounds of metal. Both have the same cost in labour to manufacture, as well as equivalent R&D cost. In some cases, trucks have lower R&D because they aren’t expected to change as much from year to year, so the engineering cost of re-designing parts/panels/etc. just isn’t there.

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      I blame both considering how often I see people brag about how big their trucks are. Motherfucker you’ve got a short bed and extended cabin, and you’re out here talking about an engine like you need to be able to go 90 while hauling an oversized trailer.

      Sure you can’t buy a small truck anymore, and it’s getting harder to buy compact cars, subcompacts, and even full sized sedans, but it’s not like all trucks sold today are that big.

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        Regulation (in a way) is exactly how we got into this situation. CAFE was meant to enforce emissions standards, but the way it was written meant that making a bigger vehicle resulted in a lower fuel economy requirement. The Chicken Tax essentially stopped foreign trucks from being able to compete in the US market, which meant that Ford/GM/Dodge got to create an oligopoly.

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      Well not only “big = more expensive” the larger engines also have lower efficiency requirements. It’s much easier to make cars bigger and more “chugging” because they don’t have to meet the efficiency standards and because it’s bigger they can charge more.

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    What is even the point of these, from what i seen the truck bed does not seem that much bigger if at all then a normal pickup truck?

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      It’s a 5 seat sedan with a bed they don’t use. the point is they want to look mean

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      Big diesel crew cab rigs are for towing trailers while hauling a crew. Think land scaping, construction etc.not too useful for the average joe using it as a Honda civic but for the right business they are exactly what you need.

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        I’d personally hate to use one of these for any of those jobs, I’d need a ladder to get the fucking ladder out of the bed. Ignore me, I’m just getting old and confused as to why the truck keeps getting bigger, but the bed keeps getting smaller. Even a shitbox from 1995 has a full 8 foot bed but for some damn reason, now they are almost impossible to find.

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        Even then, most companies would be better off running 2 trucks and sets of equipment rather than 1 big truck hauling everyone and everything. It would cost a bit more than one big truck but significantly improve operational flexibility.

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          It would be more than a “bit” more. There would be the purchase price of 2 trucks, license fees for plates, commercial insurance for 2 trucks, 2 trailers, and maintenance for 2 trucks and trailers. And it would be silly for just one crew of 3 or 4 people, which most small contractors are. So unless you have a real need to own multiples and have multiple crews all working at the same time, doubling your equipment always costs more.

          But for 2-man crews, there is no reason for a crew cab, and you don’t see them as a rule.

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            Yes, but a genuine light, single cab truck is significantly cheaper than the crew cab super duty, especially once you account for fuel economy and maintenance. Its like spending more up front for a more effecient appliance. You end up saving in the long run despite more cost up front.

            You also have better operational flexibility. One truck could take off with 2 crew members to another jobsite once the bulk of the work or certain equipment is finished at the first job site. You could also position the trucks and equipment at different locations on a large multi acre property.

            Under most circumstances, 2 light trucks makes more sense than 1 super duty.

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      The bed is like the truck balls, it’s only there for manly affirmation, but really serves no practical purpose.

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        In the south, trucks like that are practically a status symbol. Lift kit, knotted tires (bald within a year because they only drive it on paved roads), expensive ass brush guard with a winch that’s never been used, spray in bedliner with big diamond plate bed box, pristine multi-trailer hitch, Yeti/Browning/fjb/FAFO/tbl/wE tHe PeOpLe decal on the window along with whatever big football college they never went to…

        The most they’ve ever hauled in it is groceries, and the dirtiest it ever gets is when it rains. If any mud get on it for any reason they leave it on for as long as possible

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        I agree in 90 percent of cases but I have one with a fucked up bed and it’s only six months old. I use it every other day to do deliveries.

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      normally youd get more torque because its a bigger engine but this dudes truck in the city so theres actually no point but the point is so you can pull stuff out of mud or tow your tractor or somthin on your farm

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      Trucks are driven by trades people.

      They have the luxury of passing the cost of things like gas on to the customer by simply raising their price.

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          That’s a just normal f250

          Doesn’t even have fancy rims or tires

          If you have to haul any trailer or equipment yes you drive one of these or similar

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    Seen one recently. Don’t know how it is in Americas, but for the rest of the world this is unnecessarily, stupidly, obscenely big. It doesn’t fit anywhere, it consumes fuel in barrels, visibility is near zero, the pickup format is extremely impractical for everyday use. This is a climate-churning, people-pressing machine that makes 0 sense.

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      I saw a lifted oversized pickup in my town in the UK. It was hilarious. Like this one it was long, way bigger than those big Fords which are becoming more common here. And lifted. It also made a big brrr noise.

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        Eh, unless you need to haul heavy equipment. Damn, Lemmy is worst than Reddit when it comes to these things.

        Not sure if it’s mostly kids or just naive adults.

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          Yeah the real point is that the vehicle you haul your dirt bikes in and the vehicle you park at the airport are ideally different, but it’s very understandable that they aren’t. Also I’m certain that truck isn’t backed in all the way. It’s stupid big, but not 2x longer than the space big.

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            Yeah. I think inconsiderate usage of them are the bigger problem…

            Also, people that have these trucks, never use them to haul shit, lift them up and put low profile large rims on…deserve every bit of hate.

            Driving them around unloaded is a terrible experience. The suspension is designed with a minimum load in mind. Without this preload the whole thing is significantly over-sprung and a terrible ride.

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          A bunch of people have these in my apartment building, I assure you they never haul anything except maybe 3 cases of water bottles. People are morons buying these as daily drivers to the office.

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      Does the rest of the world never need to move around equipment or trailers? In America these are every bit as useful as whatever country your from lol. Most of the time people here use them as daily drivers which is obscene but if it’s a business truck a big diesel can be more than necessary. A gas 4 cyl Tacoma is NOT pulling near half what a 2 ton chassy with a diesel V8 can

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        When normal people need to move stuff, they attach a trailer to their normal-sized car.

        Even the car in the foreground is considered large in my country.

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          Normal people don’t need to haul over 30k lbs on a regular basis. Businesses sometimes do! These vehicles are not supposed to be daily drivers their supposed to be work horses. A 2 ton diesel chassy is made for hauling big loads, and if you don’t need to haul big loads you don’t need one simple as that! Really the only “regular people” I can fathom owning a rig like that are farmers otherwise they really are only useful in construction and other contracting gigs that require lots of equipment hauling to job sites, or in the case of where I work the need to haul multiple vehicles on a gooseneck at a time.

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            Yes, and businesses have business vehicles with cheaper taxes, which cannot be used privately. Small/solo businesses can be partly exempted from this.

            The size of that thing is completely ridiculous and would be a major nuisance/hazard, to drive around in a city

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              Not to mention a lot of these new trucks of that stature have WORSE visibility than a semi truck! You could run over a group of children in a cross walk and have no idea 😳 it is honestly surprising there’s not more licencing for driving a vehicle larger than x size. Hell any moron with a regular driver’s licence can get behind the wheel of a RV that’s 40 feet long, and one fuck up in a vehicle that weighs that much can cause a LOT of damage.

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        Yes the rest of the world needs to move around equipment and trailers. And they can do it without obscene trucks like this lol.

        What makes America so incompetent that they need a truck like this to do it?

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          Right so what do they use in the rest of the world to tow a skid steer + equipment or multi car good neck haulers or anything in that 30k+ lb payload? A gas 4 cyl Tacoma isn’t going to cut it. Neither will a V8 or V8 half ton truck. Do they just hire out tractors to do that kind of payload hauling? At work we somewhat regularly have to pull 20+k lbs so we have a big crew cab long box cummings to haul shit like that. Thing is a country mile long but it stays in its parking spot unless it’s getting a trailer hooked to it. If that seems excessive what vehicle do you recommend it gets replaced with? And don’t limit yourself to us mkt I’m genuinely curious !

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            You’re listing specific examples that literally no one has a problem with. Yes, if you’re moving large equipment you need a large tool to do so. The general public doesn’t do this, like… Ever. The dude in the photo has almost certainly never towed anything with it. These kinds of vehicles serve a purpose, but the vast majority of them are sold to people who will NEVER use it for that purpose, who just take up excess room in lots and on the streets, rolling around with visibility that makes a fucking TANK look like it’s got a clear line of sight.

            There’s a whole host of political and cultural reasons that these vehicles are as popular as they are. Almost none of it is actual, practical requirement. No one cares about the worker using the tool to do a job, we’re pissed at the pavement princesses who drive around like they own the place without doing an honest day’s work in their lives. Hope that cleared some of the confusion up.

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              Fair enough. There isn’t much more frustrating than going to the regional transfer station in my little 5 speed hatch back and throwing out a load of trash every bit as large as the 3/4 ton big boy toy next to me LOL. For what it’s worth at least in my state anything over 10k lbs has a significantly higher annual tax rate and their paying for their stupidity with 6$ a gal diesel rn. I just felt as though some were bashing trucks like these for existing as if there isn’t legitimate use cases for them, although if I had to hazzard a guess maybe 1/3 of units sold actually get used for anything a civic couldn’t fulfil and thsts probably being generous.

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                That’s fair. I think a lot of us have been conditioned to see these giant trucks as primarily daily drivers that best case scenario are occasionally an overpowered tool for an occasional hobby such as dragging around a camper once a year or grabbing some building supplies that people back in the day absolutely used a Tacoma or an suv for. If I see a pro grade pickup truck doing professional stuff I see it as a work tool, but if I see one in the parking lot of my way into work I see it as being driven by a tool.

                And yeah I’m just sick of being surrounded by large pro grade vehicles being used in contexts where they’re not needed and are impeding on everyone else’s space and visibility.

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            Anything too big for an SUV typically goes on a transport designed to haul large loads. Goose necks for pick up trucks are mostly a north american thing.

            The example you bring up also mentions how that truck is just for work, which isn’t really the problem. The problem is when the boss decides to drive that massive truck everywhere because his ego is so big he thinks hes needs the truck to go anywhere.

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              No kidding! Do contractors in your country own their own equipment or is that a more common thing in USA? We have equipment rental places in the USA but I feel like any business that uses machines regularly ends up owning them. Feel like it would be weird to own equipment and have no way of transporting it LOL

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                I’m in Canada so I’m very familiar with contractors owning goose necks and large trucks, it just doesn’t work like that everywhere in the world. The more remote/small the community, the more it makes sense for small owner/operators to be able to haul their own equipment.

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      Id say the pickup is just fine. Its these borderline semi trucks that are not. Ill take an old nissan or toyota truck any day and it’ll do what i need it for. This is just a “big” dick truck.

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        have had my taco for 18 years and parts availability is starting to be an egg hunt, but i aint trashing it just yet. ive done as much or more work with mini me, than any coca cola cowboy

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    My neighbour used to park his truck sticking way out like that, but it wasn’t all the way back in the spot.

    I left a note on it saying: “It’s not as big as you think it is, you have to put it all the way in.”

    From then on it was parked properly.

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        Seems like a hateful way to exist, doesnt advance any causes and just makes lots of people dislike you

        But you do you

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            you literally said you have plenty of hate

            so you do hate, and you hate lots of “options”

            I suspect you are insufferable in real life, or this an internet meme/shill thing for you

            good bye

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    trucks that big should only ever be sold to verified farmers and licensed contractors

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    When I see people with clean, big, unused trucks, I always give them this hand signal:

    Wag your index finger, and it looks like their small limp dick, blowing in the wind. You get double points if you look them in the eyes. They usually get the message. Be careful, though. I’ve gotten into a few fights over just that hand sign.

    I’d definitely reserve it for those pissers who ride your ass or park like assholes, but get ready for a fight.

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      extra points for snipping off that little end where air gets put into the tire off.

      them big tires is expensive, and odds are half their paycheck or more goes towards the car payment.

      (obviously this must be done without them present)

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        That’s one way to say you don’t understand how tires work

        Sure the tires are expensive, but replacing a valve stem is only going to cost maybe about $50, if you call around a little you might even find somewhere that will do it for like $20.

        Now if it’s not just a stem and has a tire pressure monitor, that gets a little pricey, that might be over $100. Most of those aren’t just a rubber stem but made out of metal, so not as easy to just “snip.” But usually it can still be replaced with a plain stem as long as they’re willing to ignore the light on their dash.

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    I’ve seen an increase in these dumb trucks in my small European city. Every single one in pristine condition, so you know the pricks don’t use them for work. A few stood out with expectedly dumb details. One had a license plate a la “I love USA”, and another had a sticker “0800-EAT-SHIT”. I’m pissed EU doesn’t have the balls to ban them altogether.

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      I’ve counted. In my area of Canada less than 3% of pickups that I see are being used as anything other than a commuter car at any given time.

      These insecure dumbasses define their worth by the size of their truck. The things are just $100,000 fashion accessories. Emotional support vehicles.

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        Micro penis energy is what emanates from these large trucks. Et least that’s often how they are perceived in France.

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        Sensible person…hmmm a big truck I don’t need will cost me a lot in fuel, I will by an average car.

        Sensitive person…hmm this giant truck will pollute my community and add to global climate issues, I will buy a very fuel efficient car/EV.

        Doucebag…this truck will make me look so bad ass with the trucknuts in back, while I roll coal

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      See, that right there.

      I used to have a massive F-550, but it was so beat up and had the connections to make use of that towing capacity.

      Most of these trucks have never been off the pavement and never hauled more than groceries.

      Also, an F-250 now is the size of my F-550 in the 90s.

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      I need to figure out some way to plausibly scratch these things with deniability. Maybe an umbrella with a metal tip sticking out of my bag. Whoops, sorry, couldn’t be helped, total accident.

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        Perhaps a simple trip/stumble while holding a handful of sharp metal objects that happen to make contact as you reach out to prevent a full fall, clumsy me…

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      Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
      smells like a steak and seats thirty-five…

      Canyonero! Canyonero!

      Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
      It’s the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!

      Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!\

      (Insert small print fast voice) The Federal Highway commission has ruled the
      Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving.

      Canyonero!

      12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
      65 tons of American Pride!

      Canyonero! Canyonero!

      Top of the line in utility sports,
      Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

      Canyonero! Canyonero! (Yah!)

      She blinds everybody with her super high beams,
      She’s a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!

      Canyonero!-oh woah, Canyonero! (Yah!)

      Drive Canyonero!

      Woah Canyonero!

      Woah!

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      Top of the line in utility sports, Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

      Canyonero! Canyonero! (Yah!)

      Prophetic lmao

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      It’s wild to remember this joke was from 1998, yet I can swear trucks have gotten even bigger since then. I remember most pickup trucks having a compromise between cab space and bed space. My brother’s first truck had two seats in the front and two side seats squished behind it - that is, it was such a small space that the seats faced inwards from the wall and we had to fold our legs so our knees went up. It was actually pretty fun to sit back there, I had a friend who’d ask him specifically to drive us places because she loved that feature.

      But nowadays it seems most pickup trucks (that I see, in the US) gave up on making that compromise, like the truck in the post image. Full cab in front like it’s trying to be a family sedan, then a long-ass bed that makes the thing stick out pretty much anywhere it parks.

      I’d say “pick a lane,” but with the size of these things, I don’t have high hopes.

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        A while back, i watched my friend help another friends mom into his truck in an icy parking lot- by using the Tommy gate as an elevator to get her the 2.5’ up to the other trucks door.

        TBF, at least both actually use their trucks for work. Tommy gate is a stone mason and thw other guy I regularly see hauling trees to plant for landscaping.

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        I miss my old four cylinder Tacoma sometimes but my mini van is so much more practical. I have a trailer and hitch when I need to haul something I don’t want in the van. I looked at Tacomas again a few years ago and was floored at how big they were, I swear they are the size the full size tundras used to be.

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    Remember when Hummer came out with a consumer SUV back in the early 90s? I remember thinking they were gigantic and too big for the roads/parking spots. Quick search tells me the wheel base was 130inches (3.3m or 10.8ft). Here it is completely in a parking spot.

    A modern F250 supercab with an 8-foot bed is 175.9in (4.5m / 14.7ft). A 6.75-foot bed, the wheelbase is 147.8in (3.75m / 12.3ft). I wish we could go back to the days of the Hummer…

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      I wish we could go back to the days of the Hummer…

      I wish there was a size max for cars where even the hummer would not be allowed on the road. Cars like pickup trucks and SUV’s increase danger for others. It would be better if there was more public transportation and less cars, and the only cars out there are just plain cars and vans for delivery / mechanic services etc. Because why should other people have a higher risk of dying just because someone has a micropenis?

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        “Normal” SUVs are something like 70% more likely to kill the pedestrian in a collision with one that cars like sedans.

        SUVs are anti-social cars.

        IMHO, it’s a great example that The Law isn’t really done to protect common people that those things are allowed on the road when they’re actually unecessary (unlike, say, delivery vans) and almost twice as deadly for other people than normal cars.

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          Yeah, that’s exactly my point, and there are loads of statistics supporting out claims, yet the automotive industry still has way too much influence so roads are being widened and public transport isn’t improved enough and made cheaper. At least here in the Netherlands a lot is done to improve medestriab and cycling infrastructure, and ways to reduce cars in cities (or sometimes van them completely) but nothing is done about the massive tank death trap SUV’s, usually with a driver more interested in his phone than driving safely (because chance of injury is low while driving it, fuck the rest right… FFS)

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        why should other people have a higher risk of dying just because someone has a micropenis?

        Always has been. These days this just also enables “normal people” with micropenis to endanger their fellow citizens.

        But micropenises basically, in all of history, sent other people to their deaths. Be it war, starvation, random generic atrocities, you name it.

        I feel micropenis is a metaphor for something else here.

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      I remember when they first came out, someone tried to take an H2 down this narrow one way brick road with high curbs in our town, and managed to wedge himself in between the curbs completely stuck, threatening to shed his sideways if he went forward of backwards

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      The actual HMMWV is actually a pretty cool and reasonable vehicle for medium utility tasks and off roading. What the Hummer became and what passes for consumer light trucks is ridiculous.

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      I can’t help but think the H1 is fucking cool. They’re not that long but they are W I D E.

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      It’s an old geezer’s car compared to a stadium super truck, if they were street legal…