AltGr is a key on ISO keyboard, it means Alternative Graphic, and when you hold it and press either [ or { you should get the correct glyph.
Note that you won’t see it at first, it waits for the next character and will modify it to include the change, or insert it in front of the next character if the character does not use modifiers.
You can press space after triggering the glyph to just print it separately.
We are in a community called “no stupid questions”. Your “fuck you for giving someone useful information” is not in the right place in this community. Please copypaste your comment to something under .ml and then remove it from here. Thanks!
Social media can be so contentious that people carry the average valence to unassuming comments. In general I try to just block aggressive people to mitigate that effect overall.
Salient Proof: Distinct is the opposite of average, average is mean, therefore distinct is nice.
Also, there are Czech and Slovak oddities with carons where it looks very much like a 9-shaped curly apostrophe (’) on some letters. All the following nouns are common, spelled correctly and the only accent they contain is one caron each. Standard and monospace font are provided for comparison (some monospace fonts, especially pixel ones, actually squish the d-caron to avoid overflow)
1
2
3
4
ľudia
loď
lodě
mať
people
ship
ships
mother
1
2
3
4
ĽUDIA
LOĎ
LODĚ
MAŤ
PEOPLE
SHIP
SHIPS
MOTHER
ľudia loď lodě mať
people ship ships mother
ĽUDIA LOĎ LODĚ MAŤ
PEOPLE SHIP SHIPS MOTHER
Maybe that’s why Czech and Slovak never use upper-9 quotes, the primary („“) and secondary (‚‘) quote marks are lower-9 and upper-6.
It’s Zalgo (putting combining diacritics on every letter) but mild and consistent, plus I used native accented characters if available to improve rendering consistency
àèìǹòùẁỳ
áćéǵíj́ḱĺḿńóṕŕśúẃýź
You can test if your text renderer adds combining diacritics as overlays or replaces with native glyphs:
ď (d-caron)
ď (d plus combining caron)
ԁ̌ (Cyrillic ԁ aka “komi de” or “lowercase Ԁ” plus combining caron)
Most renderers will use identical glyphs for #1 and #2 because #3 (using a d-lookalike (hompglyph) to simulate how cheap Czech typewriter users would print lowercase d-caron) is not how d-caron looks in print (the closest ASCII-safe rendition of that, if you still have encoding problems, is d’)
That’s some very clean Zalgo. I am mainly familiar with this version H̵̛͕̞̦̰̜͍̰̥̟͆̏͂̌͑ͅä̷͔̟͓̬̯̟͍̭͉͈̮͙̣̯̬͚̞̭̍̀̾͠m̴̡̧̛̝̯̹̗̹̤̲̺̟̥̈̏͊̔̑̍͆̌̀̚͝͝b̴̢̢̫̝̠̗̼̬̻̮̺̭͔̘͑̆̎̚ư̵̧̡̥̙̭̿̈̀̒̐̊͒͑r̷̡̡̲̼̖͎̫̮̜͇̬͌͘g̷̹͍͎̬͕͓͕̐̃̈́̓̆̚͝ẻ̵̡̼̬̥̹͇̭͔̯̉͛̈́̕r̸̮̖̻̮̣̗͚͖̝̂͌̾̓̀̿̔̀͋̈́͌̈́̋͜ which looks… quite messy xD
I don’t have the energy to set one up, or to moderate one, but there should be a community called “GeneralInterestClub” or similar, where interesting but not really super useful info like this would be reposted.
You press `, then you press e. You get è without needing a specific key for that. The standard Finnish keyboard can do at least the following:
ãẽĩõũṏñṽēūȳīōāḡȫǟǖŵêŷûîôâŝĝĥĵẑĉẇėṙṫẏıȯṗȧṡḋḟġḣȷŀżẋċḃṅṁẉẹṛṭỵụịọạṣḍ̣ḥḳḷẓ̣ṿḅṇṃțșȩŗţşḑģḩķļçņẃéŕýúíóṕáśǵj́ḱĺźćǘńḿẁèỳùìòàǜǹm̀ěřťǔǐǒǎšďǧȟǰǩľžčǚň
If I disable deadkeys, I lose all those characters. Many people on this planet have names that require those, and it’s a bit stupid not having them. Pressing space every now and then is not that much of work :)
Oh, and indeed: On the Finnish keyboard ~ is a deadkey. You get it by pressing the "^~ key together with AltGr, then pressing Space.
I did not state anything different, nor did I suggest to switch to a “no dead key layout.” It’s an option that might be a consideration for individuals.
Use the AltGr key!
AltGr is a key on ISO keyboard, it means Alternative Graphic, and when you hold it and press either [ or { you should get the correct glyph.
Note that you won’t see it at first, it waits for the next character and will modify it to include the change, or insert it in front of the next character if the character does not use modifiers.
You can press space after triggering the glyph to just print it separately.
Useless info: The backtick (`), forward tick (´), and apostrophe (') are distinct characters.
You’re a distinct character.
Why i oughta
We are in a community called “no stupid questions”. Your “fuck you for giving someone useful information” is not in the right place in this community. Please copypaste your comment to something under .ml and then remove it from here. Thanks!
Either you’re making some sort of joke that escapes me or you completely misunderstood my comment.
Social media can be so contentious that people carry the average valence to unassuming comments. In general I try to just block aggressive people to mitigate that effect overall.
Salient Proof: Distinct is the opposite of average, average is mean, therefore distinct is nice.
T́h́é fóŕẃáŕd́ t́íćḱ íś áćt́úáĺĺý ćáĺĺéd́ áćút́é àǹd̀ t̀h̀è b̀àc̀k̀t̀ìc̀k̀ ìs̀ à g̀r̀àv̀è
You can have some fun with these terms.
Also, there are Czech and Slovak oddities with carons where it looks very much like a 9-shaped curly apostrophe (’) on some letters. All the following nouns are common, spelled correctly and the only accent they contain is one caron each. Standard and monospace font are provided for comparison (some monospace fonts, especially pixel ones, actually squish the d-caron to avoid overflow)
Maybe that’s why Czech and Slovak never use upper-9 quotes, the primary („“) and secondary (‚‘) quote marks are lower-9 and upper-6.
This is actually quite a pleasing look. Like text that’s overgrown by jungle foliage.
It’s Zalgo (putting combining diacritics on every letter) but mild and consistent, plus I used native accented characters if available to improve rendering consistency
You can test if your text renderer adds combining diacritics as overlays or replaces with native glyphs:
Most renderers will use identical glyphs for #1 and #2 because #3 (using a d-lookalike (hompglyph) to simulate how cheap Czech typewriter users would print lowercase d-caron) is not how d-caron looks in print (the closest ASCII-safe rendition of that, if you still have encoding problems, is d’)
That’s some very clean Zalgo. I am mainly familiar with this version H̵̛͕̞̦̰̜͍̰̥̟͆̏͂̌͑ͅä̷͔̟͓̬̯̟͍̭͉͈̮͙̣̯̬͚̞̭̍̀̾͠m̴̡̧̛̝̯̹̗̹̤̲̺̟̥̈̏͊̔̑̍͆̌̀̚͝͝b̴̢̢̫̝̠̗̼̬̻̮̺̭͔̘͑̆̎̚ư̵̧̡̥̙̭̿̈̀̒̐̊͒͑r̷̡̡̲̼̖͎̫̮̜͇̬͌͘g̷̹͍͎̬͕͓͕̐̃̈́̓̆̚͝ẻ̵̡̼̬̥̹͇̭͔̯̉͛̈́̕r̸̮̖̻̮̣̗͚͖̝̂͌̾̓̀̿̔̀͋̈́͌̈́̋͜ which looks… quite messy xD
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I don’t have the energy to set one up, or to moderate one, but there should be a community called “GeneralInterestClub” or similar, where interesting but not really super useful info like this would be reposted.
There’s a few communities in the spectrum you describe: !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world, !mildlyinteresting@lemmy.world; (placeholder, will add more)
Seems like this would fall under TIL or maybe mildlyInteresting.
YSK: If you set keyboard layouts to thier versiones suffixed with “no dead keys” they don’t do that. Instead the character ist rendered immediately.
And then you don’t have dead keys.
You press `, then you press e. You get è without needing a specific key for that. The standard Finnish keyboard can do at least the following: ãẽĩõũṏñṽēūȳīōāḡȫǟǖŵêŷûîôâŝĝĥĵẑĉẇėṙṫẏıȯṗȧṡḋḟġḣȷŀżẋċḃṅṁẉẹṛṭỵụịọạṣḍ̣ḥḳḷẓ̣ṿḅṇṃțșȩŗţşḑģḩķļçņẃéŕýúíóṕáśǵj́ḱĺźćǘńḿẁèỳùìòàǜǹm̀ěřťǔǐǒǎšďǧȟǰǩľžčǚň
If I disable deadkeys, I lose all those characters. Many people on this planet have names that require those, and it’s a bit stupid not having them. Pressing space every now and then is not that much of work :)
Oh, and indeed: On the Finnish keyboard ~ is a deadkey. You get it by pressing the "^~ key together with AltGr, then pressing Space.
I did not state anything different, nor did I suggest to switch to a “no dead key layout.” It’s an option that might be a consideration for individuals.
I switched to a US-ANSI layout for work and chose the “no dead key” version on my Mac, as you can either
Dunno if the long press can be replicated on Linux, but I would like to be able to use this system in both worlds…
Interesting!
I have wondered about that!
Thank you! I will give it a try. Hitting the key than spacebar works in Firefox and Signal but not much else.
Than… Do you mean then?
Don’t be that person.
Where does it not?!