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    Also, insurrectionist aren’t allowed to hold office, but the Supreme Court said, “Meh, as long as the people are willing to vote for one, it’s cool.” The one about term limits is more obvious, so it’s a more blatant potential violation, sure, but the current Court has already shown a willingness to ignore the Constitution if it benefits their guy.

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      The birthright citizenship case really made it obvious. Three judges straight up said “I will ignore the explicit text of the constitution if the right person wants me to” and they’ll do it again

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      Their reasoning could be used to allow Zohran Mamdani to become president - after all, immigrants aren’t supposed to become presidents either.

      Of course, the SCROTUS will be hypocritical about this…

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    He’s a child

    He’ll claim that it’s a joke if there’s significant pushback, otherwise he’ll push for it

    His cult will lap it up

    Because they’re stupid

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      Don’t listen to the asshata when they say they shouldn’t be held accountable either. When shit really spirals when he rigs November and ultimately doesn’t leave office make sure you hold every one of those insurrectionists and/or supporters accountable.

      The Nurnberg trials proved that you can be put on trial for taking orders. This shitstains one and all want what’s happening. When they lose, and they will in 1 year or 50, hold them fucking accountable.

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        Everyone keeps saying “the Nuremberg Trials show you can hold them accountable” but keep forgetting that the Nuremberg Trials were held by an international court after it took a World Fucking War to get the Nazis to stop their shit. Not that I’m saying that’s an excuse to give up and let the Republicans run rampant but the Democrats aren’t doing shit and the rest of the world isn’t holding Trump accountable either.

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          Yes, I hate when people talk as though nuremberg 2.0 is an inevitability. Is Santa Claus going to bring the international court down to prosecute MAGA? it’s only going to happen if somebody makes it happen! It’s not a sure thing!

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          Yes I’m sure many of us, myself included, understand this. Countries can and have held themselves accountable too albeit with less success. South Africa and then Canada have each done their own TRC. It’s possible. You just can’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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          We have a full province of their stupidity in Alberta. I wish it was called out more by the MSM.

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    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
    No person shall be elected
    who says he has plans for an election?

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    Laws are just words on paper if the people in charge of enforcing them choose not to. We are the people in charge of enforcing the enforcers when things break down - it’s what the second amendment is all about.

    They know we won’t do our job when all is said and done, so they no longer have a reason to bother doing theirs when they could instead be paid by the wealthy to look the other way.

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      They know we don’t want to do that job. Eventually the majority will have enough and it’ll kick off. A third term likely being tipping point

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        Why would that be a tipping point when so many other things have happened that should have been the tipping point? You all just comforting yourselves with the illusion that it can’t get worse because then the people would revolt, but then it gets worse, people still don’t revolt, but you keep telling yourself that lie to convince yourself things can’t possibly get worse

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        You cowards have left DOZENS of tipping points in the rear view over the past 30 years. You’ll whine for a few days and then roll over and accept it as normal.

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          Cowards? What’s with you people aggressively expecting anyone but yourself to do violence for change.

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            Your fucking country.

            I promise, when we have masked, anonymous thugs in unmarked cars murdering and disappearing people with the blessing of the state and we do NOTHING about it, you can call us whatever you like. Coward.

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    If the orange turd goes out for a third term, the sane people of the USA should run Obama against him. Fair is fair.

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      What if we ran someone who wasn’t a war criminal? Hell, I’d vote for Greta Thunberg, since we’re ignoring the constitution anyway.

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      As much as I don’t want third terms and also don’t want Obama, this is the best action and I’ll vote for Obama out of spite. Maybe he’d get another chance to fix healthcare, and make it work right instead of a half measure that just gifts more revenue to health insurance companies. I’d thoroughly enjoy the video of trump’s meltdown when he loses to the “Muslim” black man he’s been racistly demonizing, and I’d love to hear his phone call conceding the race.

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    And those term limits were finally voted into the constitution by conservatives because they were terrified that FDR had already been elected to his fourth term due to social policies being, surprise surprise, popular with the people, and they wanted to prevent those who would become a “dictator, king, or totalitarian leader”

    Hilarious.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/why-does-the-u-s-have-presidential-term-limits-the-history-of-the-22nd-amendment

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    About a year ago I was talking to my aunt and she was speculating that Trump will run for vice-president and then have the president resign so he can be president again. I tried in vain to explain to her that the loophole is unnecessary, he’s simply going to stay president because there’s nothing stopping it. I swear some people think the law is a natural force that just happens without humans enforcing it.

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    He’s not planning on leaving the office. Hopefully we’ll still have elections in 2028 but I think he’s going to need to be removed by force in January 2029.

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      Yes, I’m afraid so too, because on the one hand, this regime is so criminal that everyone involved would likely face prosecution immediately after a new administration takes office—even under the dysfunctional U.S. legal system. Despite all the tricks and the expected election fraud in the event of another presidential election, I consider it virtually impossible that the MAGA fascists would be re-elected—they’ve pulled the wool over the eyes of their own, fantastic voters far too obviously this time.

      On the other hand, ICE is quite obviously a secret police force whose mission is presumably to secure a coup d’état. I simply cannot see any reason other than the creation of a loyal terrorist force—which ICE already is—for its astronomical budget; it equals the military spending of a medium-sized country and, by U.S. standards, is more than double that of all U.S. federal agencies combined—such as the FBI, CIA, etc. The explanation for this is, in my view, obvious: ICE is intended to serve as a counterweight in case of doubt, should the military be unwilling to stand idly by in the event of an anti-democratic coup.

      In short: I think that even darker times lie ahead for U.S. citizens, for they are being ruled by organized crime. I do not believe it can be removed without violence.

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    Term limits are very easy to get around. Look up how George Wallace and Vladimir Putin pulled it off. Basically you get some patsy/stand-in to run in your place. You run openly announcing that the stand-in will just be holding the pen. To keep them loyal, you select someone with no independent power or authority, low popularity, or no real interest in governing. Think someone like Jared Kushner. He’s completely dependent on Trump financially and politically. They could run a President Kushner, openly admitting it’s just going to be a third Trump term. Republicans could vote for Kushner reasonably confident that Kushner will remain loyal, as he has no independent existence from Trump.

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      Vladimir Putin

      When he did this trick, liberal media (incl. but not limited by VoA) had been constantly talking about how impossible this trick in advanced democracies like the US

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    From my point of view, the idea of Donald Trump or his family running in 2028 appears to be a uniquely unpopular idea with Americans across the political spectrum.

    It’s something that most people I know agree is a bad idea and unconstitutional regardless of political leaning. One thing is clear, when the voting population is most divided, Republicans win big. It’s why communism, trans anything, and immigrant wedge issues (amongst others) get rolled out so often. It’s a 'yuge political error to lean into this highly unpopular and unifying Trump 2028 messaging, particularly in these months leading into the midterm elections.

    While it is concerning to see MAGA types flaunting Trump 2028 merchandise / apparel, I see them for what they are: Insufferable contrarians who get joy from intentionally provoking and upsetting others. Not serious people with serious opinions. Whether they honestly believe and support the idea of a 3rd term, they just like being anti-social, or both, their intent is a moot point. That kind of behavior is a huge turn off for middle of the road voters.