Apparently there will be some boycott of PS in regards of decision to discontinue disks.
From 23 to 30 of August.
Push for laws that force digital stores to provide full ownership of digital rights.
The ability to pass purchased licenses from one account to another would be a real game changer.
They’re trying to kill ownership completely, and this would blow it wide open.
And that could just be step one. We need assurances about what happens when a store closes (can we download everything and archive it and play offline? will it be moved to another provider?) We need the ability to move purchases between stores. Hell, even between platforms. We need to make sure accounts that have paid for goods cannot be completely revoked under any circumstances. Locked out of online play or prevented from making further purchases, sure, but never just blocked.
Law makers have sat idly by for too long as our rights were taken from us. It’s high time to take them back.
just a week?
the sentiment is nice, but those are rookie numbers. gotta pump it up to at least a month or three.
director boards don’t care unless the quarter looks bad.
I would be absolutely floored of enough people were on board to even make a noticable difference for just one week. Boycotts in the gaming space have been hilariously ineffectual, historically.
Babysteps brother. The roaring blaze of a revolution starts with an ember
You know who would say economic boycotts don’t do anything? A lot of people defending Target a couple years ago. You could ask their CEO at that time, bit he was fired after they set the record for consecutive weeks losing value on their stock.
If you have a console, join in. Maybe they will feel it. AND REMEMBER , one corporation always works to give the others cover to follow. So if you have another console, support. Do it, and tell friends.
Works for me. My last Playstation was a PS2 lol. Been gaming on PC for over 20 years.
Why bother.
Leave Sony. Dont threaten. I walked away after the ps2.
The hardware is the problem and everyone seems to act like the physical media is the issue.
Open hardware or gtfo.
I have a couple PS3’s. Bought used. No online games. I think I’ve bought more of their titles on PC than console.
It’s not even a boycott, I just haven’t seen value in their recent offerings and would rather spend my money elsewhere.
There’s some stuff I’d love to experience on the PS5.
But I will not be spending nearly a thousand dollars for a set top box with limited functionality they can effectively disable when I’m no longer making them enough money.
And with SteamOS getting better and better, the convenience of a console over a PC is becoming less of a thing.
Honestly, once SteamOS has dedicated apps for things like Hulu and Netflix, I think we can really change things. Right now my parents have an Xbox where my Dad can play an occasional game, but the interface is simple enough for my Mom to open her streaming apps. Once SteamOS gets that simple, I’ll be switching them over.
I don’t think steam will ever have those things. But streaming devices are dirt cheap. The issue is codecs.
On the other hand I do have Plex and jellyfin on my steam deck to watch my shows when I am flying.
remember when Sony was the only console with backwards compatibility? Pepperridge Farm Remembers.
Huh? You could play gameboy games on the SNES?!
with an adapter, yes, but the PS2 and PS3 could run PSX games natively.
Wow! It’s worthless!
As if a back out will convince a corporation that they are doing bad things and give up and change their minds.
Remember reddit black out?
Yep. I also still remember the last PS blackout. That was 24 days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_PlayStation_Network_outage
There’s no changing Sony because there’s no changing its users.
Sony is going to wipe their tears with all the money they have made from their player base.
I’m gonna change my profile pic in support
just incase
/s
Have not purchased any Sony consoles or games for Playstation since the PS2. Get on my level!
Mine was a second hand PS1 that my brother played. Not sure I ever used it, maybe for a little twisted metal.
Good game. High five my fellow old fart (and non Playstation supporter)
I was on team Dreamcast and never owned a Sony console! Welcome to my world!
When I saw them bait and switch Linux again with the ps3 I was done.
Ps2 the last sony.
Gamers are notoriously bad at voting with their wallet so i’m very curious to see what comes of this.
I mean all the power to anybody that actually participates in this but effective boycots don’t usually have a start or end date. This looks more like a strike.
You’re going to need to get everybody to abandon Sony indefinately. Preferably from right now right up untill demands are met. That way you either get what you want, or you do not at which point you know chasing that point further is futile.
Gamers are notoriously bad at voting with their wallet
When everyone was complaining about the Switch 2 price prior to release, I knew that it’d still sell like hotcakes.
Hasn’t stopped people buying the Steam Machine, either.
Yeah, switching to PC is a significantly more effective boycott strategy. You can still play games and give Sony $0.
Edit: And yes I realize PC generally doesn’t have disks either. However, you aren’t locked into PS’ store and things like GOG exist. I make a point to buy games on GOG, and so should anyone interested in OP’s boycott.
However, you aren’t locked into PS’ store and things like GOG exist. I make a point to buy games on GOG, and so should anyone interested in OP’s boycott.
While this is true, releases on GOG are few and far between and all the other stores are just (bad) variations of the same thing. Online web stores are very very far from functioning like brick and mortar stores for physical releases used to.
We primarily have “competition” on pc in online stores because some publishers are big enough to build their own just so they don’t have to pay Valve to be on Steam. So you are not technically locked to one store, but you are very much locked to whatever store publishers choose to push their game to.
So essentially you’re locked to all of them unless you choose to just not play said game, which is essentially the same choice you have on the Playstation with just the PS store.
Big difference for me is PC is open hardware and open OS. Should the worst happen there are possible solutions from those voyaging the seas.
But, consoles are locked down, and jailbreaks can be years away.
Its why despite buying digital on PC without issue I continued to buy physical for consoles, since I felt more in control of PC hardware than I did console hardware. Physical on consoles was a way of gaining back some control despite the hardware being locked.
Oh well. They dont want to sell my the game, then I don’t need the game.
PC is the only chance at you controlling the hardware, so it’s the only choice.
The comparison still doesn’t make sense. You can’t play a PlayStation disc on a different platform. If you buy a disc on console you are locked to that ecosystem.
Sony are doing this because not enough people buy discs to make it worth manufacturing, and PC gamers should know this because this new age of digital gaming started with the PC. Switching to PC just proves their point.
You are locked to the ecosystem, but the disc function can’t be revoked through account ban and is actually transferable to other people because of that.
Something Sony dislikes compared to digital where there is no second hand market.
Switching to PC proves the point that if games are digital people prefer open hardware and open OS options over locked down hardware.
Not that is should be a valid response, but you can jail break PlayStations to play whatever game you have a “back up” copy of. That tends to be my method of playing legacy PS games because it’s easier than dealing with discs.
At the end of the day, console gaming is a different product to PC gaming. That’s more obvious with Nintendo, but overall expectations should be different.
This is the crowd that preorders a DIGITAL ONLY game that hasn’t released a single lick of gameplay video. GTA 6 is proof that capital g Gamers are a lost cause.
The sane people that game have to just stay away from all the ball and gun Gamers, and support the indie scene.
They’re actually very good at voting with their wallet for the most part. A minority of them are just very dumb and vote against what they’re claiming they want.
Nah, the majority of gamers just don’t care.
They just want to play their games and as long as it isn’t too many hoops to jump through will stick with Playstation. They didn’t even read the news about physical media.
They don’t care because they don’t buy physical games. They voted with their wallet to go all digital. That was a decision they made at some stage, and they don’t care about physical games existing or not.
I think part of it is people don’t forego convenience but also that we’ve allowed corporations to cement hegemonies that there honestly is very little ability to boycott.
Some industries are so centralized it’s impossible to effectively boycott and vote with your wallet.
I’m still pissed at Sony for the rootkit fiasco. I have not willingly spent one penny on their products since then.
Remember their stupid proprietary memory sticks?
Proprietary in design? Cause ps1, 2 and 3 had the memory cards and those were sold by MadCatz, Neon and there was another really good third party seller that sold those. The PSP original ran off of of regular memory sticks that you could use literally any brand but the speeds and quality of the Sony ones were set to specs for the PSP, like the Nintendo cards are set to specs for the system but in reality you can use nearly any SD card.
So whatchu talking about?
For the original PSP, which uses Memory Stick (Pro) Duo, there exist third party adapters to use 1 or 2 microSD cards.
But with the PSP Go, they introduced the Memory Stick M2, which is dimensioned in such a way, that microSD Adapters are impossible.
With the PS Vita, they introduced yet another format, very similar to the M2 in size, but different enough to be incompatible. Again, no microSD card adapters exist, if it wasn’t for nifty homebrew hacks utilizing the game card slot, there would be no way to use microSD cards at all.deleted by creator
This: Memory stick pro
A bunch of their laptops and the PSP/etc would only support these instead of a normal a USB flash drive. And Sony’s stupid proprietary memory stick cost like 2x what other storage mediums cost.
I was under the assumption they were talking about the PS Vita memory sticks which were already expensive at release and haven’t really followed the trend in prices that other SD cards have since then.
That problem is mostly solved these days by the modding scene making the SD2VITA so you can use regular MicroSD cards in the game cartridge slot, but Sony would still have you pay $65 for a 32GB stick of their official storage.
Meanwhile I found an SD2VITA available for $7 and a 128GB MicroSDXC card for $35.
I notice their speaker and AV proprietary connection shit is everywhere … I do audio and HT gear as a side hobby
Hard to boycott what I already stopped using a good while ago, though…
Boycotts don’t have start dates. They happen as soon as someone says it happens and you’re either in, or you’re out.
Boycotts don’t have end dates. They happen until demands are met. If that means you never buy/do that thing again, so be it. If you’re not prepared to commit all the way, don’t participate.
Over time, the definition of “boycott” has been watered down to make people forget what makes a boycott effective. People have forgotten that the Montgomery Alabama bus boycotts lasted for literal years and saw people donating time and money to fixing up old cars, horse-drawn carriages, and carpooling to make them effective.
If you want real change, you have to be prepared to take real action. This one week boycott is pussy shit and won’t solve anything. If you’re gonna organize, do it for something that will work.
The boycott begins today. Right now. No more PS+ logins or payment. No more buying new games or consoles. No more anything that puts money in Sony’s pocket (buying used is fine, that money only goes to the reseller) and it lasts until Sony reverses its decision to stop printing physical games.
If we want to continue boycotting until they revise their digital licensing, we can demand that once we’ve made progress on the physical media. That’s what everyone cares about, so let’s keep the demands short and simple with that as the only one.
but it makes those people feel good about themselves.
Couldn’t agree more!
Just cancelled my PS+ subscription with reason “other”.
I’ll see you all on the seven seas!
Wait so you’re going to stop buying physical PlayStation games and instead …. pirate pc games?
I imagine this is going to lead to a resurgence of the homebrew scene. Not sure if I’ll find games in the forest, or just get my fix watching a streamer long play the games I’m interested in.
No physical, no purchase. Period.
Technically pirated games can be put on a physical media and stored indefinitely, neither do those require online connection afterwards, so Sony cant just remove those and Sony won’t be getting any money or user metrics for it either.
While not a perfect solution, it’s a decent stopgap and will get more people on board than fully abstaining.
But the PS5 can’t play pirated games……
… can’t play pirated games yet.
and instead …. pirate pc games?
Yeah PS5 games can’t, but PC games can be.
Most important features of physical media are transferability (you can give the game to someone else and it will run) and autonomous access (you can run your game even if Sony or simply your Internet connection go down). Piracy typically checks both of these boxes.
It may not hold a collector’s value if that’s what you’re after, but I’d argue this is secondary anyway. And if you simply want to hold a bunch of game disks, you can always buy an empty disk and put the game in there.
Just FYI because seemingly no one appears to know this, but if your console is set as your “home console”, you can play all of your digital games offline, forever, on it. You can back them up to external drives, and copy them back over to the console at any time and play them, even in a nuclear submarine under the ocean.
The “home console” thing make it store all of your licenses locally, so there is no need to connect to auth servers ever on that console to play the existing games. I used to have every single game I own on Xbox backed up on external drives, but couldn’t be bothered after a while as I have no issues with internet.
If I lost internet for a bit and couldn’t play a specific game because I didn’t have it downloaded, I’d just play something else until I have internet again. That’s not something I lose sleep over.
The more I know!
I am sure this will go as well as every other “gamer boycott” in the past.
Console plebs won’t ever even become aware of the boycott.
Easy I don’t own anything Sony besides a PS2
