• tazeycrazy@feddit.uk
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    “That’s a suspiciously long reply about how Hitler could have succeeded with dates and sub plans. This is all hypothetical right. Just a thought experiment?”

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    Why are dudes like this.

    Women are individuals who’s preferences differ from person to person. But forget all that for a second. Women are just not attracted to men who are DUMPY RUDE ASSHOLES. NOBODY IS. These dudes make so many excuses to not work on themselves.

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    Dude lamenting women not being attracted to intelligence checks out as he use a picture that clearly focuses on a woman’s intelligence.

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    I’ve heard that people try to marry their parents… or people like them rather.

    I see some truth in that sometimes

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    Ah yes, how to succeed in life in a fundamentally broken society that values exploitation over everything else. Couldn’t think of a better metric for choosing a partner.

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      Ffs, you were so quick with the snarky remark that you dont even understand that suceeding in life means a lot of different things to a lot of diferent People.

      The definition you gave is your own and for me it reveals a skweded perspective of what means sucess, adaptation or intelligence.

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        Fair point :D but succeeding in life without succeeding in society is pretty difficult since as you said it means a lot of different things for different people but is still one of the biggest influence on their situation

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      Yes, it is. Someone who can do well in society and their lives while being generally good to those around them is often considered a good catch.

      Thinking that anyone who succeeds in life in our society must be one of the like, less than 10% who are ghouls is odd.

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        Beeing generally happy and doing well while simultaneously profiting from a society that is build on genocide, exploitation of natural resources and imperialism is such a twisted concept. Even if not part of the 10%.

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          Gotcha. So would you rank yourself as mostly unhappy, destitute and unwell?

          Can you think of anyone in our society who’s doing alright within the confines of a broken system, or do you think that everyone’s existence is inseperable from the context of that existence, even if the means of changing it or it’s impact are outside of their reach? Somewhere in the middle?

          I met a guy who helps manage a homeless shelter and food bank. Stand-up guy. Makes ends meet, is doing what he can where he can. Generally happy guy with a family. Pretty twisted right? Or my former coworker who let his gardening hobby get out of hand and ended up running a community garden that retrofitted two houses to donate to families in need.

          People exist in their circumstances, but they’re not defined by them. How you react to those circumstances speaks to your character, not that you exist in them.

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            How you react to those circumstances speaks for your character

            Being able to ignore the bigger picture because you can change your own privileged surroundings IS the problematic reaction that speaks for your character

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              Gotcha, so doing good where you can makes you evil unless you’re mired in torment over things beyond your control? By that metric everyone in the world is evil.

              I can’t fathom an ethical system that requires you to be unhappy about things beyond your control once you’ve done the good that you can.

              What constitutes “good character” to you? What constitutes “success”?

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                Yes it is called empathy, it’s nothing you can buy yourself out of by doing good things. If you are somehow interested in the well being of the people it just doesn’t magically disappear after helping some of them. It doesn’t make you evil but it’s certainly not a good sign to weigh these things against each other. The ability to feel good while seeing the world suffer seems to me problematic.

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                  Gotcha. So when was the last time you were happy? I take it you simply do not do things you enjoy?

                  And when did I say anything even remotely like not feeling empathy for suffering, or that caring for people disappears after doing a good deed? Empathy isn’t an ethical system.

                  I’m actually curious what behavior you think would be non-problematic, and if any human actually does that.

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            Or my former coworker who let his gardening hobby get out of hand… to donate to families in need.

            The implicit level of privilege here should not go unacknowledged. It’s a hint at the full story. That’s a fundamental part of the problem regardless of how the individual feels about it or reacts.

            Perhaps more importantly these are extremely niche/cherry-picked versions of succeeding. In USA it almost always means the same evil bullshit.

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              You’re not wrong, the guy did have a lot of privilege in his life. He’s well educated, has a demeanor people trust and enough money to have a backyard garden in a house in a not ideal part of town. He opted to use that privilege to get his neighbors to join their backyards together to have a community garden, and then used a city/state program to use their pooled money to buy an empty lot and an unoccupied house to finish the block. Instead of selling the house for profit, they opted to give it to someone in need.

              I’m not sure what full story you’re looking for. Dudes a community college astronomy professor who spent some time maintaining billing software.

              My point isn’t "oh my God, everyone in the US is a saint!” it’s that the notion that “because the US has fundamental structural problems, anyone who isn’t a miserable failure is inherently evil” is just profoundly misguided.
              Either your definition of success is setup such that it says more about you than other people, or you just fundamentally haven’t encountered many people.
              What’s your definition of “success”? How many Americans do you think are engaged in “evil bullshit”?

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      And for the protocol, i don’t give a shit about that incel bullshit, I just hate people that try to make complex problems look simple because of their particular privileged situation

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      If you love your wife and you are broke, you won’t make her your wife.

      They are just avoiding selfish people who will drag them down.

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        Ah yes avoid being dragged down by choosing somebody who just drags other people down but not you. So they have a shitty character in general but behave differently toward you. Never heard that this went wrong.

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            I’m really sorry for this view on yourself. I don’t know how to change this since the default variants that I have been told didn’t work out for me either but I am really sure that prioritizing somebody else over yourself or as you said protecting somebody from getting cursed with one self is one of the most harmful ways to see things. It makes it a lot harder to come close to somebody since you are framing the avoidance as something helpful for them

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    Kinda bordering a strawman here, but if I said

    why are men attracted into the airhead type?

    there would be bunch of dudes saying they are into intelligent women, and that it’s just hollywood.

    Dylan says "Why don't girls like me," sulking. "Hey," "Dylan" says the offscreen voice.
Dylan looks over to see a giant amalgamation of women, some of them are falling as it moves. The amalgamation speaks to him. "It's me, all girls. Only you understand that all women share a consciousness, Dylan. Be one with me . Link yourself to the hivemind." Dylan has stopped sulking, as he now only cowers in fear.

    (Sidenote props to the artist for drawing all those people one by one)

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      Men are attracted to the “airhead type” because those women are good at making men feel good about themselves and keeping up lively conversation; and though people usually prioritise companions who have the same interests as them, they enjoy talking also to a lively conversation partner, perhaps someone as-different-from-themselves as possible: someone who surprises them.

      Many men feel that all women have the “airhead” quality - no, not as in they’re all stupid, but as in they’re lively and conversational in that stereotypical way that disrupts the man-to-man conversation; and though they do not speak to men as equals (preferring to talk over them or jerk the conversation off on some other tangent, perhaps, or dwell on uniquely feminine topics which baffle/disinterest the male listener), this is seen as no big loss, really. For women are different to men, and their presence in our lives is welcome precisely because of that rather than in spite of it.

      The important thing to remember is that people change overtime and every person is more multifaceted than massive media would have us believe - so yes, that is “just Hollywood.” Who’s to say why a man likes an “airhead,” she probably has more depth to her than you know about.

      Edited to change one comma into a colon, and formalise grammar in final sentence

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    most women i know are more attracted to a character or intelligence than anything else. i know a couple more “stereotypical” women as well. like one girl which disagreed a potential boyfriend just because he is driving a small car. and i can see a big correlation with their background/upbringing

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    Also, this is just plain wrong.

    Some women are attracted to intellectual minds.

    Some women are attracted to physical strength, some women are attracted to maternal instincts, so on and so forth.

    The problem is this question is usually being asked by someone who thinks that responding to every factual statement with an inflammatory counterpoint qualifies as intelligence.