• Tiger666@lemmy.ca
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    24 hours ago

    This post screams of insecurity and sadness on the part of OP.

    I think OP romanticizes the idea of being a soldier like a Hollywood actor.

    OP has never served.

  • Dasus@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    When you’re a soldier you don’t really have agency over the morality of what you do, aside from being technically allowed to protest against committing war crimes.

    So no.

    You just generally hope the government of the military you’re serving is makes the moral call.

    What you’re thinking of is a violent psychotic vigilante.

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    No, there isn’t. At all. What so ever. A soldier is merely a tool by a state that may or may not (and historically NOT) have good intentions.

    A soldier is first and foremost instructed to FOLLOW ORDERS. Not because of some nefarious plot to use people, but because doubt on the battlefield can mean a weakness ripe for exploitation, and can introduce delays that mean defeat.

    A soldier is a TOOL, not a freedom fighter.

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        Lol.

        Shows how little you know.

        In the military, shit isn’t up for debate. You do as you’re told. It is very much black and white.

        (Well, from some exceptions we don’t need to get to because you’d never reach the level where one has to utilise their own brain.)

        edit this excludes warcrimes obviously. ALL soldiers EVERYWHERE are mandated to refuse orders that would lead to warcrimes. (how they’re taught what are warcrimes is a different matter entirely)

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        1 day ago

        Tell me you’ve never studied history without telling me you’ve never studied history.

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        24 hours ago

        Myopic indeed, you know nothing about being a soldier. Go play GI Joe somewhere else. Pathetic loser.

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    1 day ago

    There has never been a time where soldiers were fighting for freedom. They fight for their master.

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      1 day ago

      That’s a very cynical view. Their country is their master, if they got invaded, like Ukraine do, then them fighting for their master(or country, if you will) is fighting for freedom.

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        Fighting foreign enemies at home doesn’t automatically make it a “fight for freedom”. Case in point: Taliban vs USA

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          Fighting foreign enemies at home doesn’t automatically make it a “fight for freedom”.

          Uhh no shit, nuance is important.

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          You don’t think the Taliban were fighting for their freedom?

          What were they fighting for then?

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      I mean, there are soldiers fighting for their countries’ safety today! They’re just not the ones thousands of kilometres away from home (they might be piloting drones on the other side of the world, I guess, lol), of course.

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        ww2 wasn’t to stop evil?

        It wasn’t, thinking so is a very absurd reduction of many different interests at play over 3 fronts (Africa, Europe, Asia)

        What about the civil war?

        Which one? Afghan, Lybian, Syrian, Iraqi, Rwandan, Spanish?

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      What do you consider a soldier to be? Because I have a feeling you are using a very narrow definition that excludes some of the examples I would make.

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    If you’re one of those brave dudes trying to hit aircraft with old rocket launchers while sprinting in your flipflops, you’re almost certainly putting down evil, sure.