• pasdechance@jlai.lu
    231·
    2 days ago

    Lemme zoom in here just a wee bit on this here whatchycallit… Meme? Oh fiddlesticks, I don’t have me glasses… There they are… Oh! Hee hee haa haa you young fellers are drole.

    I use Debian.

    • ratel@mander.xyz
      74·
      3 days ago

      I just assume that everyone arguing over distros has been using Linux for less than 3 years. If you’re an experienced user you’re just happy more people joined the cult community.

      • rozodru@piefed.worldEnglish
        13·
        3 days ago

        yeah I’ve tried just about all of them and at the end of the day it really boils down to “how do you like to install your shit”. a DE/WM is probably more important than the distro at this point as you’re going to get similar performance no matter what you’re on.

        I use NixOS only because for me personally it makes dev work slightly easier than other distros. that’s it really. Some people want to constantly tinker, some people just want to install and forget about it for a year and have it stay out of their way. It’s all about personal taste and how you want to install stuff really. I know a guy that uses Bazzite for everything not just gaming and he loves it. it works for him. My dad uses Slackware and will never use anything else, he loves it. If I had the time I’d probably switch to Gentoo but NixOS works for me right now. Like I said the DE/WM is more important.

        All that being said if you use GNOME then I’m worried for your well being. /s

        • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
          3·
          3 days ago

          I LOVE keeping my configs in source control. I add something to my laptop in my shared config, it also adds it to my work desktop and my travel box. I need it just on the prime laptop? there’s a spot for that too. Stuff that’s not needed every day? nix-shell -p it. I even setup some shared nix-shell project folders so if i need something like yt-dlp, nix-shell in the directory pulls down a specific python, installs the latest yt-dlp, ffmpeg and deno, even leaves me a shellhook reminder of what the command line is. when I close that shell, it’s all gone.

          • rozodru@piefed.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            yeah nix shells are awesome. I use a few suckless things to the point I have my own #suckless nix development shell. Just load that up whenever I need to change or build someting and i’m good to go. for my other dev things I just use flakes which makes it just as easy. all I have to do is CD into a project directory and then my environment is instantly setup. CD out and it’s gone. All that on top of my system config being in a repo I can reinstall my system on any PC within minutes.

            Really NixOS is the end game of Linux Distros. Once you finally figure it out you’ll never distro hop again.

      • bryndos@fedia.io
        9·
        3 days ago

        I’m not sure that I’m what anyone would call “experienced”. But I’ve used it for a long time. And people wetting their pants over one or another distribution seems like a total waste of time. they’re all very similar.

        I’m very much not happy to be associated with the community depicted in meme - i sincerely hope most of them are just taking the piss out of themselves.

        I think even if there were quadruple the user base it’s not going to materially change the number of developers making decent linux native programs. So you either use open source stuff. or webapps and wine stuff like that. Size of userbase is pretty irrelevant to me.

        • libewa@feddit.org
          5·
          3 days ago

          Distros are a matter of taste, and you shouldn‘t judge someone over it. But a bit of friendly fun-poking is alright (e.g. „NixOS user spend all night configuring their PC“). Insults directed directly at a person are never OK. And there are of course distros that are objectively bad (like Ubuntu), and you can criticize their creators, and maybe try to convince the users to choose something else (that‘s where Mint is from, kind of), but you cannot. hate. on. them.

          • cenzorrll@piefed.caEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            I don’t judge Ubuntu users for using it, but I do wish they’d try out a linux distro.

      • treadful@lemmy.zipEnglish
        5·
        3 days ago

        I’ve been using linux for almost 30 years. I’ll stop arguing about distros when I’m dead.

        Also, let’s be real, this ain’t that serious.

      • late_pessimistic@slrpnk.netEnglish
        3·
        3 days ago

        So true lmao. I have been using Linux for 4 years. Recently three of my friends have switched, each went for a distro I would never go for myself, nor recommend to anyone. Yet I was just happy for them and hopeful for FOSS.

        Saying this as a person who once said systemd is bloat, proprietary drivers are backdoors, Firefox is bloated spyware, use only FSF approved distros.

      • ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.netEnglish
        22·
        3 days ago

        I’m actually hoping the Windoze losers stay away…last thing we need is a flood of “make it more like windows” requests… Ugh…

        • bryndos@fedia.io
          2·
          3 days ago

          Yes - they should stay in another subculture, far away.

          Ideally they’ll also be locked behind a paywall, safely protected by shit like “HP sure start” so that they don’t accidentally open some dangerous csv file in anything other than excel.

    • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      281·
      3 days ago

      Same here, except on servers, where I prefer debian.

      Because I’m old and tired, and I just want to install and be up and running in as short of a time as possible without dicking around.

    • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
      9·
      3 days ago

      Same conclusion for me. Been using Linux for years, Mint is the only distro I’ve used that #JustWorks in my experience.

      I use LMDE as my personal laptop, it’s rock stable.

      • pmk@piefed.caEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        What’s the difference between LMDE and running Cinnamon on Debian?

          • pmk@piefed.caEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            Iirc LMDE uses a btrfs naming scheme that is incompatible with Timeshift for example, and it removes some standard Mint features. The last time I tried LMDE is was basically Debian with cinnamon (and green theme), but what is the Mint experience?

            • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              2·
              2 days ago

              but what is the Mint experience?

              Mostly just the way Mint is set up out of the box and having most of the Mint tools available. I remember LMDE lacking some of the tools like the GPU driver installer last time I tried it, but I’m sure those are either being added over time or will be in the future.

    • Tango@piefed.caEnglish
      9·
      3 days ago

      I have yet to encounter a use case where I would need anything other than Mint.

    • titanicx@lemmy.zip
      7·
      3 days ago

      After 20 plus years of Linux I also really love using mint on any machine with a screen. My servers are all Debian based but my desktop and laptop are mint it just works

      Also, not sure how using arch is equal to the picture, not sure if that’s supposed to be a trans girl, an e girl, or something else. Using arch is more like a mechanic with a car that breaks down every time they change anything.

    • oppy1984@lemdro.idEnglish
      5·
      3 days ago

      Yep, been on Linux for 10 or 12 years now, I honestly can’t remember. Distro hopped at first, then I found Mint and never saw a need to change.

    • cmhe@lemmy.world
      31·
      3 days ago

      I’m in an organization that helps people install Linux on their devices, and we collectively decided to install Linux Mint. I never used it myself, and to me, the distribution doesn’t matter too much.

      However, I was negatively surprised that Linux Mint decided to mix closed-source proprietary software together with open-source software: http://packages.linuxmint.com/search.php?release=alfa&section=import&keyword=

      They also advertise them in top positions on their package installers, which also doesn’t show the packages licenses anywhere. To me advertising them and mixing them like they are the same is bad… They also don’t offer ways to filter them out… So… while I still install LM for others, I’m not a fan…

      • blarth@thelemmy.club
        91·
        3 days ago

        Being too purist about the openness of a distribution is a big reason Linux has taken so long to gain foothold on PCs.

        • pmk@piefed.caEnglish
          10·
          3 days ago

          On the other hand, being purist about openness is why GNU exists in the first place.

        • cmhe@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 days ago

          I don’t care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.

          I’m not a purist, I want people to be informed users, not just sheep that get fed whatever corporations want them to eat. If they still choose to use closed source software, then that is fine.

          • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            I don’t care if a Linux distribution offers proprietary applications or not. I just want to be able to filter it out, and that they offer open alternatives first.

            More often, it’s not applications, per se – it’s things like video codecs and drivers.

            And there is no open-source alternative, because the only way to decode that proprietary video format or run that proprietary wifi module is to use their proprietary software to do it. So you either have user-friendly distros that include the availability of those things for the ‘it just works’ experience, or you have open-source purist distros where you can be proud of being purely open source, but some of your video files won’t play, and your wifi doesn’t work.

            • cmhe@lemmy.world
              2·
              2 days ago

              Yeah… But LM has spotify, Google Earth, Dropbox and Sublime Texteditor mixed in open source software (like d-feet, a dbus inspection tool) in their repos… Those aren’t propritary Codecs, WiFi driver or firmware…

              Debian and Ubuntu have different APT repo sections for closed source stuff. That is what I would have expected…

  • Reygle@lemmy.world
    35·
    3 days ago

    Weird. Just turned 47 and I JUST tried Debian tonight.

    So far it’s very good.

    Get off my lawn

    • Billegh@lemmy.world
      11·
      2 days ago

      I always felt that the default package situation for Ubuntu was far better than Debian’s. Like, no, I don’t want to set a root password and then manually install sudo or doas after and then add myself to the relevant group and then remove the root password…