Omaha police agreed this week to stop carrying gloves that can deliver electric shocks to students in the halls of Nebraska’s largest public school district.
The decision affecting most Omaha middle and high schools came after The Associated Press first revealed Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s plan to give officers the gloves, which are known as G.L.O.V.E.s or Generated Low Output Voltage Emitters. The devices have also been used in recent years by some jails.
Omaha Superintendent Matthew Ray requested that police working in the schools, known as school resource officers, stop using the gloves. Omaha Police agreed.
It’s such a perfect dystopian weapon. Like you can imagine someone being scared out of their mind of being touched by a cop because of this, which is then “resisting” and gives them card blanche to brutalize them.
Electricity is truly a weapon of state terror. Not only the pain, but you completely lose control of your body in an (bonus points) undignified manner. And while it’s so intensely affecting it’s usually not lethal, nor will it leave obvious marks.
It’s the perfect weapon of casual torture for power tripping bastards.
What the fuck is this
It’s called America, the land of guns and idiots.
Home of Gun Care and Health Control.
Welcome to America. ICE just signed a multiple million dollar contract to get these to use on ‘illegal immigrants’. US tax dollars hard at work here.
FREEDOM BABY!! FEEL UP THE LOVE!!
-said no American ever these days
American culture seems to have nothing left in it besides the layers of violence.
WHAT? Bet if i was there you wouldn’t say that to my face.
Settle down, killer.
face
That’s a strange way to spell gun.
That thing that make you strong and manly and AMERICAN.
That, and the implied threat of violence because someone on the internet doesn’t agree with your opinion of how great America is?
It was a joke.
Literally impossible to tell the difference when it’s just a line of text on a webpage.
That particular phrasing isn’t used as “a joke”.
That’s why we typically use a “/s” to remove the ambiguity.
Just a hint for you, I’ve noticed a considerable uptick in the proportion of people taking my sarcasm literally, when I started hanging out on Lemmy instead of Reddit.
Thats a hint for you.
Or would you like to say that to my face?
Important to note that it’s typically violence against people who can’t really push back without risking getting killed.
It’s time to make bullies afraid again, but I don’t know how without starting a total escalation.Just start a total escalation at this point
Racism is so American that when you protest it, people think you are protesting America.
This is a country where people whined about their freedoms being taken away because they were asked to not be loud vocal racist homophobes
I know, not on topic really, but lets not pretend that racism is an American trait and not a human one.
It’s not human trait at all. No child is born racist, they’re taught that.
Which you’re implying that it’s a natutal human trait and therefore somehow acceptable on some level.
Lol, fuck off with that projection and putting words in my mouth. It’s like you haven’t traveled at all and experienced racism in the Far East, in Europe, in Africa, etc. What a bullshit take. Don’t put fucking words in my mouth and think that you made a good point.
Cool story edge lord.
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Work hard and get ahead they said. Yea, they actually said that.
It is not more pervasive here, it’s just the hypocrisy is hard to take. Go to most parts of the world and you’ll see racism still alive and kicking. It’s just the US we have constantly patted ourselves on our backs for being the “melting pot” of the world, or the “salad bowl” as we were later described. Yet reality and history show that was, and is, just hypocritical bullshit.
Can’t believe a nation founded on slavery and baptized in blood would come to this.
Don’t forget that it was stolen from people who already lived there
Yanks are quite keen to gloss over that part
Nothing left? Brother it had and has nothing else.
It was started on the principles of “I moved here and now I own the land because god told me so, now stand still while I genocide your entire nationality”
Moved to “I own you because someone brought you here on a boat and I need someone to work the fields.”
Moved to “You may have civil rights but we make all the drugs and write the laws”
Moved to “Be free and happy, go do acid and don’t look too closely at the vague yet menacing government agents wiretapping your homes, they are here for your safety”
Moved to “Serial killers are everywhere (don’t look too closely at them, either. Dont want you seeing their badges)”
Moved to “We need agents everywhere watching everything, and Guantanamos in multiple locations because terrurists.”
Its a long line of bloody murder stretching all the way back to colonialism (and beyond!)
Exactly! It’s never been anything else. The Europeans who first came there were narcissistic and racist sociopaths and it’s all been that since then.
America has preserved European values - more specifically 17th century European values such as racism, imperialism and the whole “might is right and a ‘superior’ race genociding an ‘inferior’ race to take their shit is absolutelly normal and fine”.
Lmao ah yes, thank you for clarifying that it’s specifically 17th century europe, I was really worried someone might get all confused and think that modern europe has a problem with racist imperialism. No no, that’s just america.
Please point out the part of my post were I wrote that modern Europe doesn’t have a problem with racist imperialism.
Uhm… That wasn’t what you did, nor what I called out? So no, but I will say that trying to reframe criticism like that is a kinda dodgy tactic (if intentional).
You and your strawman should probably get a room
This was an example of American corruption. A school official probably has a friend who is involved with the shock glove company and got kick backs for buying weapons to use on children.
Facism is imperalism turned inward.
with a veneer of faux prosperity.
then give it back. wear your own shock gloves and give the school cops a pat on the back fo ‘keeping kids safe’ or whatever it is they do when they are attacking parents from trying to save their kids
It’s also into sex and drugs. Not as much rock 'n roll as you might hope, though.
And the sex is apparently only allowed with minors and those who do not consent.
Im surprised school shootings is news at this point. Seems to be like a weekend event.
Weekday* no school on weekends
Did you try (and somehow failed) to write “weekly”?
Do you not have a fun weekend life? Going out with friends? This comment is from someone who’s weekends are normal and uneventful.
It’s all rot
A bunch of performative cruelty.
Don’t forget the gambling and the grifting and the cornering of technology markets
It’s really bad, it’s deeply deeply ingrained in our culture. I hear people say “i swear to god im gonna murder him” multiple times daily at work. The violence is baked right into our language. (I guess the religionism too lmao)
They shouldn’t have shock gloves in the first place.
In fact, I will go so far to say that police should be unarmed by default. They can carry a baton, but a remote operator has to give the okay to unlock the baton for extension. A squad car can have a shotgun with rubber slugs, but the trunk also has to be remotely unlocked. Police should also receive permission from an operator for turning off their camera.
Bluntly, the police cannot be trusted with power.
Public site, 100% uptime, every weapons pull listed in real time. They put those gloves on, it’s noted, they pull the baton out, it’s listed. They draw their guns it’s listed. Transparency would be a good start. Body camera footage should also be available to the people in the videos automatically in identification.
There shouldn’t be any police in schools in the first place, like in the rest of the world.
That too, but all cops should be like this. They shouldn’t be allowed access to any weapon unless specifically authorize for an active crime where it’s absolutely necessary in the public interest.
I agree but the tech can’t be trusted to work when it needs to.
I trust the tech way more than the cops, and I do NOT trust the tech.
Insane comment. What is the equipment even necessary for with that limited access?
Perhaps that is your point, but it might as well be people deployed from a location rather than onsite personnel.
There are many parts of America where people - and by consequence, officers - are thinly spread out. Having potential access to firepower is sometimes important for the occasional bear or person who is shooting at signs.
In cases where martial power is needed, contacting people is a thing that should be done by default. Having a potential ambulance in the wings, social workers and other police on notice, and so on, is good practice.
We now live in a age where ships at sea can have reliable access to the internet. Society should take advantage of that to ensure that police officers are not able to harm their communities. We do that, by making the powers of an officer conditional - that they are recorded at all times for infractions, prevent them from instinctively reaching for a gun, and making them aware that brutality isn’t an crutch that they can rely upon.
I thought that a platform often interested in self hosting would loathe the idea of remotely activated equipment that’s often getting used in the moment, like a remotely activated baton (lol).
My take is that you either trust it with people in the field or you don’t.
Your typical forum-goer doesn’t have the potential to kill strangers. If someone has the power to kill, they must be held to far greater scrutiny and responsibility than the ordinary person.
If it were possible, I would prefer the police to not exist outright. Barring that, the next best thing is to highly regulate their existence and procedures.
Got it you hate cops and have unrealistic ideas about how to regulate them. I think my original comment alluded to that pretty well.
Cops have spent my entire life being shitty protectors of capitalism and racism. Of course I would distrust them by default, because they haven’t given me a reason to trust their character and motives.
As to my proposals being unrealistic? I think they would be much cheaper and practical than the current version of policing. A fair chunk of a town’s money is spent on wrongful conduct lawsuits, due to the police abusing their power. We can have much more money to spend on social goods, if we took away the unimpeded powers of police.
Agreed on not trusting the police.
Who’s the hall monitor activating the equipment? Some person also getting paid to watch a bunch of live body cams?
If they can deploy a hundred thousand multi vector public surveillance cameras in a matter of months almost escaping public notice, they can invent a bunch of devices to monitor the cops just as easily. To hell with them.
The Associated Press first revealed Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s plan to give officers the gloves
I wonder if spelling it out really did make people overlook the fact we’re talking about ICE here
No. It’s just the AP style to not say an acronym without ever saying what it means
Which is hilarious because you violated AP style by not first saying Associated Press.
It was in the previous comment
Can’t even say “enough internet for today” because I just opened Lemmy and saw this.
I mean you can, sometimes the first shit i see makes me shut down the computer lol
Parents who support this support it for “urban” schools. They don’t believe it will ever be used in their white, suburban public schools.
Or they just really like electrocution of children.
On the one hand, I love delivering electric shocks to children, but on the other hand, I really hate cops.
So what you are asking for are child cops, that you can give electric shocks to?
At this point, I’d settle for swatting a hall monitor with a bug zapper.
Best they can do is tarrifs on all your neighbours.
Black and brown children
Don’t forget yellow ones. Oh and fuck those purple kids.
and fuck those purple kids.
Don’t give maga ideas.
Ideas? That I am sure is just a Tuesday for them.
G.L.O.V.E. sounds like something Vault-Tec would make and sell
Why are there police in American schools? That’s very weird.
It’s so there’s someone there to easily arrest black kids for doing normal kid stuff.
It’s to increase the efficiency of the school to prison pipeline.
Having police in schools stops school shooters… /s if it isn’t fucking obvious
Absolutely weird, but the situation probably isn’t exactly like what you’re envisioning. Outside of a few notoriously violent/“gang activity” regions, they’re not regular staff - there will be a couple of School Resource Officers (yeah, really what they’re called) for an entire district, and they will float around to the various schools on a schedule (ex: my comically awful highschool had one stop by every two weeks).
They’re also there almost entirely to deal with incredibly tedious administrative tasks that students never see - things like truancy cases, monitoring parental custody orders, coordinating public risk management, following up on teacher concerns about abuse, monitoring sentence diversions, deeply unglamorous but fairly important things like that. The cliche’d idea of them “stopping school shooters” has never been what SROs are for despite what they may claim their role is (uvalde utterly debunked that pigmyth…). And while the popular image of police “raiding lockers” searching for drugs is absolutely based on real events, it’s a pretty dated meme at this point; mass “dragnet” searches like that have been repeatedly ruled unconstitutional (I haven’t heard of one happening in years), and very few highschools even have student lockers anymore.
Excessive force like using these “tazer gloves” is just yet another thread in the greater tapestry of the US’ issues with policing, which can be boiled down to two major issues: First, that the police have been used as the catchall for tasks that really shouldn’t be their job, and second that those interdisciplinary tasks have been given to a group that is worryingly easily infiltrated by fascists. The first point is a lot more addressable than the second, but as several regions have started shifting from the police there’s been dramatic improvement in the fascist problems as well, and among the most successful have been replacing SROs with Limited LEOs (essentially social workers with very restricted legal enforcement powers, who exist entirely separately from the police). Really, it’s a very outdated concept and absolutely is not a role the police should have ever been used for.
Stopping fights, looking for drugs or weapons, giving kids a head start on a life full of imprisonment; you know, the same safety regulations every sane nation would have 🙄 Growing up with parts of my childhood in the US private and public educational system, it became very clear very quick that the cops didn’t really give a single shit about me or saving my life if something happened. They were there to ‘keep an eye on the troubled, inner-city kids’ i.e. “scare and threaten the minority* kids”
*I say minority but my school was actually pretty diverse, all things considered, though the black kids definitely had a slim majority
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stopping school shooters?
No, no, to permit school shooters to go unimpeded. Uvalde could have had good samaritans intervene, if the police didn’t block them from attempting to rescue kids.
Police are fucking useless 95% of the time.
Hahahahaha running away from school shooters?
Cause of genuine mentally defective individuals that lack impulse control, that go and do violent ass shit.
Officers were expected to give warning before using the gloves and then touch the person for up to 15 seconds while the electric shock was delivered, the statement said.
According to the manual, these things (the Gen 5 gloves) are discharging 324–362V at 0.7–1.2A and the Gen 4s 210–380V at 0.9–1.5A.
That’s around half a kW for you folks keeping track at home. Better hope little Timmy’s heatlh class is teaching him what a regular sinus rhythm is.
I hope any officer who uses that on a child gets a prostate exam with a G.L.O.V.E. equipped.
Sorry gen 5? There are five generations of these things and we’re just hearing about it now?
“I may be delivering the voltage, but don’t blame me. The kid is the one pulling the current.” –The cop, probably
Nebraska. Honestly, it’s not for everyone.
…stop?
Why the fuck did they ever start?
The answer is always money. Someone benefited financially from starting it.
For the self proclaimed Land of the Free, the US has always had this dark authoritarian streak, but I’m frankly aghast at the dystopian death spiral unravelling before my eyes. You could see it coming for a long time, but it still feels sudden.
We’re going on 1 decade+ of it “feeling like 1939”
This is why phones are banned In schools. Otherwise we’d have video of cops tasing studnrts with a weapon straight out of a Ratchet and Clank game
its specifically texas that banned it too.
Legitimately, everything I hear out of Texas makes it sound like fucking Mordor. It’s like everyone there lives to cause as much harm as possible.
My favorite quip of late:
“Texas: The one-star State”
they should let the invasive feral pigs have the state.
We’ve lost Canada and Mexico already.
Why does this country keep worshipping a cruel and unnecessarily violent police force in every corner of its society? You’d think enough regular folks have had a bad enough experience to want to reign it in over time.
Oh, that’s easy. The draconian measures that I support are to be used on them, not me and my folk!
have you seen the copanganda, military worship that goes on media/films thats how they reinforce that control.
I absolutely hate cops and have had horrible experiences with them my entire life. I don’t understand this cop worship either they’re always the dumbest most abusive people you knew growing up.
