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In 2025, People Will Try Living in This Underwater Habitat

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In 2025, People Will Try Living in This Underwater Habitat

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The first step in the Deep Sentinel program, one of the most ambitious ocean-engineering projects in decades, will be completed this year. This initial step, called Vanguard, will shelter three aquanaut-scientists at depths of 100 meters. Eventually, the project will create a modular underwater habitat system that will let scientists live underwater for weeks at a time.
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    Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? ‘No!’ says the man in Washington, ‘It belongs to the poor.’ ‘No!’ says the man in the Vatican, ‘It belongs to God.’ ‘No!’ says the man in Moscow, ‘It belongs to everyone.’ I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Rapture, a city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, Where the great would not be constrained by the small! And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well.

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      “Unless that man is an actual laborer, haha, fuck those plebs”

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        Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his chattel property’s brow?

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      I’m having mixed feelings. Are we going here or not? On one hand no censoring… On the other hand… No censoring. Also doom, but there’s also doom here too.

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        the whole point of the game was to illustrate how dumb libertarians are

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          Perhaps. But I think I may have figured out their logic… no bears under water. So they won’t have to worry about bear attack while drowning from lack of maintenance

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            Giant squids are the bears of the ocean

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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              Hell yeah they are. Them’s my boys.

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            Water bears

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            lots of leopards though

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            Yeah, they wouldn’t need to worry about bears, but I doubt the panic would allow them the time to contemplate the phrase, “No single drop thinks it’s to blame for the flood” very much.

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            i doubt they’d have time to drown tbh, at depth a small leak is likely to cause immediate and sudden implosion, instantly crushing anyone inside. not sure how that would play out in a larger non-circular space though like rapture.

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          Yes! Everytime anyone says anything about Libertarians I bring up Keene, NH. A Libertarian utopia that was so awesome, Black Bears joined the fun and took over the town.

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            Grafton, not Keene. Keene did have some free staters, but the cryptocurrency sovereign citizen pedophile kind.

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              Oh yeah! Grafton. Got those two mixed up lmao. They cut the towns taxes to zero and couldn’t pay the garbage pickup. That brought the bears who proceeded to rule the town.

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            Holy shit they made SCP-2875 a real thing

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        I don’t remember being able to play Doom in BioShock… 🤔

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      “Oxygen.”

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        Lubricant is required

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    Because of its narcotic effect at high pressure, nitrogen shouldn’t be breathed by humans at depths below about 60 meters. So, at 200 meters, the breathing mix in the habitat will be 2 percent oxygen and 98 percent helium. But because of its very high thermal conductivity, “we need to heat helium to 31–32 °C to get a normal 21–22 °C internal temperature environment,”

    😮

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      So everyone is gonna sound like mice when they get crushed under the weight of the ocean?

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        Hmm… maybe not? The low density of helium at 1 atm is what causes the amplification of higher frequencies in the voicebox, but in a pressurized container the gas would be higher density so it might offset the effect… I think?

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          If the original SeaLab tests in the 60s were any indication, YES. Check out Scott Carpenter’s voice on this recording with LBJ. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wkh6s

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            Love the horribly confused operator trying to fix problems with her equipment before putting the call through to the president.

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          They definitely sound funny even pressurised hehe

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        Apparently when doing saturation diving like that you can’t even understand what the other person says, between the helium and the pressure the voice is too distorted to be intelligible.

        You can communicate with a computer that transforms your voice to be intelligible but it is really not a pleasant conversation so you can stay there for weeks without having a conversation except for the bare minimum.

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      What they mean is they will need to use the amount of energy that you would normally put into air to get it to 31° C, but the helium will only get to 21° C. At no point will the helium actually be 31° C.

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      “I dub thee Sir Phobos, Knight of Mars, beater of ass.”

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      Chopper Dave!

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      Man why did I have to go so far down to find this one? Lol

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      Eggers, sir

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      If you’re lookin for me,
      You’d better check under the sea,
      Cause that is where you’ll find me,
      Underneath the seaaaaaa lab,
      Underneath the water,
      Seaaaaa lab…

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      Mustache on or off?

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        Too bad

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      Vanguard is now under Martian Law!

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      Bizzaro I love you bizzaro!

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    Will it be filled to the brim with billionaires so it can also malfunction and we are on time for the annual billionaire sacrifice to the sea gods?

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      Researchers are rarely rich, despite deserving it more than others.

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    Sealab 2025?

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      Lol, that show is among the stupidest things I’ve ever loved.

      • mctoasterson@reddthat.com
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        It’s not a toy. It makes real cupcakes… with a 40 watt bulb… and there’s icing packets. But the secret ingredient is love… Damn it.

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        Sparks: … would you ever put your brain in a robot body?

        Murphy: Why? I like my body. Ha, I love my body.

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        Well hello, consumer, yes hello consumer bop bop bop bop be da bup bebop cola!

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        Dart in the neck!

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        I want to be an Adrienne Barbeaubot!

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      Read headline, music immediately started in my head, “if you’re looking for me…”

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        You better check under the sea!

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      I love me some Mingus Dew

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      Only if they inaugurate Vanguard on the day of the Feast of Alvis.

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    So Bioshock….

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      Well, it’s just scientists, so Sealab 2021.

      Eventually, the techbros will make a cheaper version and add the pod to the end though.

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        as long as they don’t use a logitech controller i’m sure it’ll be fine

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          The logitech controller was fine, although it was questionable to be using a bluetooth one.

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            The F710 isn’t Bluetooth; it uses its own dongle.

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              Still.

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            I now wonder if part of the reason that all happened is because the controller battery died, so they couldn’t ascend.

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              Nah, the shell cracked, pretty much instant death. Dodgy tech works until it doesn’t, only the first critical failure matters

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                Well duh? I’ve read the reports. I mean that maybe they went too deep because the controller died. Eg, dude holds button that tells controllers to go deeper. Controller dies… Sub just takes last input and keeps going deeper until it hits the catastrophic depth.

                Guy was an idiot for sure, I just wonder if the controller played ANY role at all.

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                  The plan was to go to the Titanic, which is on the bottom of the sea. Controller malfunction or not, the hull was the issue.

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                  It seems unlikely… The vessel wasn’t up to the challenge of anywhere near that depth, and they intended to go that deep from the get go.

                  I mean, it could be, but Bluetooth shouldn’t work like that - it’s a digital signal with a bunch of failure modes in the spec. You’d have to code it particularly stupidly to have that kind of problem - it’s a very time-synched protocol, even a sudden disconnect with no disconnect signal is something a coder would have to confront explicitly if they were using off the shelf components

                  I’m not one to bet against bad code, but the decompression seemed to be pretty much instant and within the planned trip, it just seems like it doesn’t survive oscams razor

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        Pod 6? I hate Pod 6!

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          Total suck pod.

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      Would you kindly…

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    Billionaires first

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      Titan II: Back for more billionaires

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    And in 2026, deep divers will be searching for datapads to find out what went wrong.

    • kingthrillgore@lemmy.ml
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      “So we found these slugs that produce magic stem cells…”

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        Add in “But harvesting it angered the psychic primordial shark that we worship as a god.” And you’ve got the rough plot for the water planet from Kotor 1.

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      Maybe the pact holds longer in those silos 😆

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    Build them as connectable hexagons. Learn from the insects, they’ve had a half billion years to figure out what shit works and what shit don’t.

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      Sure when in air. Not so much for underwater or really anywhere where they have to deal with a pressure differential, either positive or negative, where large flat sides are detrimental.

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      The hexagon is only stronger than a circle if you’re gridding it.

      EDIT (stronger for the TOTAL material used)

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      Did you mean “truncated icosahedron”? A hexagon is 2d.

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        Nah if you only build a 2D structure, you won’t have to worry about the water pressure because your structure will likely not be able to interact with 3D matter. It’s genius engineering IMHO.

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    If your looking for me
    You better check under the sea
    Cause that is where you’ll find me
    Underneath the
    Sealab, Underneath the water
    Sealab, At the bottom of the sea.

    About 4 years late, but whatever.

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      Why do I apparently have the entire theme song still in my brain meats? I only thought the show was ok during its original Adult Swim run, and it wasn’t even a brain wormie theme. I apparently need to go back and watch it again to see what’s up.

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        I am probably a minority, but I think it’s the funniest of the early Adult Swim originals.

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          Well I am going to put it to the test and see if it’s available anywhere to binge watch. I remember it being perfectly fine and enjoyable, but never one I was intentionally waiting to watch. Time to find out if it holds up or even gets better with age.

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          The feng shui episode was the best one.

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            The Feast of Alvis is my favorite.

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        The best show on Netflix

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      The jerks in Pod Six made you late, didn’t they?

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        Once again, your stupidity has killed us!

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    Very interesting to read, but sounds so astronomically expensive and reliant on zero mistakes in every single aspect of manufacturing every single thing going into the pods, that no one will sustain paying for this shit beyond angel investors.

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      you should read michael chrichton’s book sphere. it talks about some of the tom & jerry tier physics and biology disasters that can happen in a deep sea habitat

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        Yep I own a hardcover of it; fucking fantastic book, and excellent film adaptation.

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          Ooh. Dunno about the adaptation side of things. I will say that I read the damned thing all in one night. Had to stay home from classes after doing so. Good book, to say the least.

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      Many people said the same things about the ISS, I’m sure.

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        Sure, but space habitats are far far more useful than underwater ones

        There is definitively no shortage of challenges in orbit

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        What government is interested in this project. Please name one.

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      Well, they gotta get those angels somehow…

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    high pressures are scary as shit.

    apart from that, there’s no sunlight down there. it’s basically like living in antarctica.

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      Good thing that doesn’t cause any pr-

      https://www.livescience.com/52467-why-antarctica-fuels-excess-drinking.html

      https://theweek.com/crime/antarctica-sexual-harassment

      Oh.

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      Will there be penguins?

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      The episode where he tells Jonathan Brandis about condoms remains to this day the cringiest thing I have ever seen on a TV show. By far.

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        Wow, that’s way more detail than I ever want to remember.

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          I wish I could forget.

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    If anything goes slightly wrong I die instantly you say? I need to sign up NOW

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      Yeah, wouldn’t mind that for the next 4 years or so, possibly longer.

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    So basically Rapture

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      I was thinking more like PATHOS-II.

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