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    According to our Government this is WORSE then Shooting up an Elementary School!

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    I can’t associate the term bombitup call bomber with real-world protests or events, as it’s linked to unethical activities. However, I can summarize the Tesla protest news:
    Tesla protesters are organizing their largest global demonstration on March 29th. They aim to hold 500 protests at Tesla showrooms worldwide. The movement focuses on labor rights and environmental concerns. Activists criticize Tesla’s workplace conditions and union resistance. The protest seeks to pressure Tesla into better corporate practices.

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    The potential side effects of ketamine include dissociative experiences that may lead to confusion or impaired motor coordination, cognitive disturbances, and, with repeated misuse, the risk of developing a substance use disorder.

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      Also, one that we surely don’t talk about much, being hated by the general population. That might be correlation instead of causation though.

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    If I was insuring Tesla or their showrooms in any way, I would see to get rid of this contract as fast as possible.

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      I wouldn’t. That would be covered under the force majeure clause, so no need to pay anything to Tesla, but you can increase premiums by a lot and earn crap loads doing absolutely nothing.

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      Are you reading it wrong and assuming they mean only 500 people? Because I’m pretty sure they mean 500 different protest locations.

      Globally.

      But since you think that’s so pathetic, how about you show us a protest that had more than 500 demonstrations on the same day.

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      globally. They got nothing at all to worry about

      What’s that supposed to mean ? You think we’re not pissed off at the Tangerine Palpatine and Poundshop Goebbels in Europe ? Or do you think Europeans don’t protest ?

      If it’s the latter I suggest a little googling try “French protest gilet jaunes” for a starter. Or you could just google the protest Tesla has already been experiencing for the last month

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    What does protesting in front of Tesla achieve, it’s a private company, just boycotting their products is enough to hurt them, they need to protest the goverment goons and get that cunt impeached and save democracy

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      I mean the problem with your argument is then that there’s nothing we can do, as there isn’t really any pathway towards impeachment right now. As Republicans hold both houses and have pretty clearly shown their loyalty to Trump even with the fact that they’re getting so much backlash they won’t hold town halls anymore. So at this point these kinds of protests are one of the few ways to try and hurt the people in power, as well as to start building community that is needed for any kind of more direct action. It also gives Trump and Elon the opportunity to overreact against protests (like if they decide to follow through on the domestic terrorism thing) which will further galvanize people into action.

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      Elon hates it. Elon is a part of our government. Our government is buying Tesla to prop him up. If you just crawled out of a fucking rock there’s your answer.

      Here’s another answer for you after decades of seeing assholes outside of a Planned Parenthood. Fuck you if you think people shouldn’t protest outside of Tesla.

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        Even if tesla implodes and files for bankruptcy tomorrow. It’s still not gonna save your country

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          Any given act of protest isn’t enough to save the country. But multiple acts building on each other will. It’s about continuing to apply pressure, one step at a time, until the fascist regime topples.

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            There are a lot of European keyboard warriors that don’t seem to know much about America (other than social media) that keep trying to call out Americans for not “protesting right.”

            It shows that they have no clue about the size of the country or the fact that the shock and awe that started this administration knocked everyone on their heels and only now are we starting to mobilize.

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              I try to stay out of American politics because I get that my views are probably skewed being in Europe, but I do see his approval ratings close to and sometimes above 50% on certain areas.

              Without telling you what to do about it, I must admit it scares me to think that there are millions of people agreeing with what he’s doing. It feels like the US is a preassure cooker only just getting started, slowly inching towards a disastrous explosion.

              What are the realistic potential outcomes of everything going on?

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          Maybe not, but when someone is strangling you, it feels really good to stick your thumb in their eye.

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      It gets Elon super mad which is funny. Also what do people who are not in the United States supposed to do? Protest in front of their own countries governmental buildings? What’s that going to achieve.

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    There have also been an uptick in incidents of arson, vandalism, and violence against Tesla showrooms that, while unrelated to the protests, have led to Musk and President Donald Trump labeling them “domestic terrorism."

    It’s perfectly reasonable to think that at least some of these could be false flag opperations orchestrated by the Trump administration to give them cover to arrest innocent people and eventually declare martial law. The more that possibility is part of the mainstream conversation, the more wind it takes out of their sails towards accomplishing those goals.

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      Very accommodating terrorists. I don’t think setting fire to things can be considered an act of terrorism. At worst it’s arson.

      It’s not like anyone’s even been injured.

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      Imagine invoking Martian law (pun intended, because of the Alien act) due to someone bullying a billionaire by burning their cars.

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      I wish the stock price would just collapse already along with organic consumer demand for the cars themselves evaporating into nothing so it could whither and die a natural death.

      As much as I hate Musk, I’m not a fan of seeing property damaged. Not because I love the property, but because it’s too easy to leverage it as terrorism by a regime that has a hard-on for labeling anything it doesn’t like as such. Consumer collapse and bankruptcy would be beautiful to behold.

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          I have a feeling, even if the World Trade Center had been completely depopulated on the morning of September 11th and the hijacked aircraft only had jihadists aboard, the event would have probably still been declared an act of terrorism.

          The determination of what constitutes terrorism isn’t for us normies to make. The people in power get to have that particular privilege, regardless of what we feel.

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            Peeaonally, I think terrorism requires a certain scale of either malice or destruction. Flying jetliners into an empty icon of the country? Definitely terrorism. Crashing a little Cessna into a National Forest? Probably not terrorism.

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              It has to be organized for one. One random person going out and doing something regardless of what they do, isn’t terrorism domestic or otherwise.

              And it doesn’t matter, Pam bondy isn’t really charging anyone under the domestic terrorism act. She’s charging folks for malicious destruction of government property. And the reason she can charge them this way, is because Tesla receives financial assistance from the federal government. So this puts them under a clause in the law that allows the Pam to charge them as though they had set fire to Air Force One or something similar.

              All of the domestic terrorism stuff, that’s just political propaganda. It doesn’t actually reflect what she is charging people with.

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                The definition of terrorism usually runs along the lines of, engaging in acts to cause fear for the purpose of achieving political goals. So, stalking someone isn’t terrorism, but sending pictures of a politician in various locations with crosshairs drawn on them saying you will follow through unless/if they do x would be.

                Now, the question becomes, are these arsonists setting fire to Tesla vehicles and showrooms because they want Musk to stop his political antics or because Musk is a giant asshole? I honestly think you could get reasonable doubt on that, provided you actually had a fair trial and weren’t dropped in a deep, dark hole somewhere.

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        I don’t like damage to property cause I’m scared of my tyrannical government

        lol ok, bet doing nothing will work. Maybe try appeasement?

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          Strategic dissent is what matters. I doubt things would have been improved if targeted groups in Germany had violently rioted and smashed Mercedes, Benzs, and Volkswagens (or whatever the main rides were at the time). I mean, the Reichstag Fire was the perfect excuse to accelerate the tyranny (and it was probably an inside job!). Just the same, smashing cars probably won’t endear the generally-docile public to the cause. I would say most people (i.e. the support force necessary for widespread change) don’t want to be associated with violence. It might win some over, but it’ll polarize others, exacerbating the situation and possibly creating Rittenhouse militias to evolve into gestapos.

          Sure, once the ruling evil exists in earnest and the rule of law is declared fully dead, clandestine resistance saboteurs may be necessary, but they’ll aim for strategic targets with a high gain of hurt laid upon the tyrannical regime. They won’t expose themselves to frivolous targets like individual electric cars. If anything, they’ll target infrastructure and try to make it look like government incompetence to incite people against those in power.

          This gray time is confusing and scary, by design. Extreme action just probably won’t elicit the desired effect right now. Figuring out a way to inceptually make The People attribute their various pains and grievances to the actions and personalities in power should be the goal.

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            Just the same, smashing cars probably won’t endear the generally-docile public to the cause. I would say most people (i.e. the support force necessary for widespread change) don’t want to be associated with violence.

            Which is why we should be considering the real possibility that these are false flag attacks. Want to turn the general populace against peaceful protesters? Engineer false flag attacks that make the protesters appear violent. Now you can arrest peaceful protesters and the general populace will turn and look the other way.

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          Pretty sure property damage is one of the options to attack a tyrannical government. Assassinations too. At least its options people have used, not sure exactly how effective it was but the nazis lost in the end.

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            I’m having trouble thinking of an example where a tyrant dictator was assassinated and displaced by a democratic leader and not just another dictator. I don’t think Hitler is a great example. Maybe Hussein? I’m apologetically ignorant on the current state of Iraq’s political system.

            Democratic norms seem to be more successfully implemented when a ruler is facing bankruptcy and has no easy source of funds (e.g. natural resource extraction, sponsorship from foreign sources), and therefore has no other option but to expand freedoms and public goods to empower citizens to be more educated to work more profitably (and be reliable tax payers). A fairly recent example is the shift Jerry John Rawlings performed in Ghana in the 90s, which is explained succinctly in The Dictator’s Handbook (Bueno de Mesquita and Smith).

            A general strike could be an effective means to force the hand of a ruler dependent on national productivity to keep his coalition’s insiders/influentials happy enough to retain their support.

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    I’m worried about the next Rittenhouse. Stay safe out there and watch out for the “good guy with a gun”

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      I’m sick of worrying about being killed over my freedom of speech in this so called free country and I think I’d rather die by calling out some fascist than cancer or living under tyranny anyways.

      None of you are immortal so figure it the fuck out.

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      I love when someone brings up Rittenhouse because I dated someone who went to high school with him, so I know quite a bit about him.

      Turns out all of the signs were there and his mom encouraged that type of stuff :)

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        They’re often are signs. I was at school with someone that ended up being a murderer. He was a super weird kid, his father wasn’t around and his mother was an alcoholic so he never really had a great upbringing, schools response to all this was to get him suspended whenever he acted up.

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            Short answer : No

            Long answer : Bullet proof is a misnomer, everything, even the air, will eventually stop a bullet. You can get a suit with ballistic fiber which will work against small and slow calibers. Keep in mind that the damage a bullet does is more than just perforating your clothing. Body armor has a rating system telling you what kind of rounds it can mitigate, although most rifle rounds require some sort of rigid plate to prevent penetration and also dissipate the impact over a large surface area. A thin, flexible bullet resistant suit or jacket is not going to do either of those things very well.

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            You mean the ones that completely negate impact damage? I think those would violate physics.

            You are supposed to be able to get flexible bulletproof armor that isn’t made of Kevlar but some kind of non-Newtonian gel, but I don’t know how good it is.

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      This is such an odd attitude for him as well because oil extraction is expensive and slow. By the time he starts to see any profit from this his term is almost going to be up. But then again I suppose he is an idiot.