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    after what he has done to californias fast rail system, with the hyperloop scam, he deserves much more.

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    Just imagine if there wasn’t a crazy tariff on Chinese cars the figure would be even lower. BYD are making some great cars

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      BYDs are everywhere now in Australia. Not sure what alternative brands are available in the US, is it just Rivian?

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        rivian isnt even that widespread , and they are still testing some models. i can see them going for IONIQ 5, maybe mercedes, or bmw.

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        And other Chinese brands!. The MG4 is super popular in Australia too. Can get it for about $38k AUD ($25k USD).

        Even if Tesla wasn’t tarnished by association with Musk, they have absolutely nothing at the budget end of the market. ie for buyers that traditionally bought corollas, little Mazdas and Hyundai’s.

        And BYD has the whole range, if I want a luxury sedan the BYD Seal goes toe to toe with the model 3.

        I think China is going to eat everyone’s lunch here in the same way Japan did in the 70s/80s, and Korea went in even cheaper in the 90s and 00s (how many Hyundai Excels/Accents were there in Australia in late 90s early 00s).

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        On the more affordable end around here I see a lot of electric cars from Ford, Chevrolet, Kia, and Hyundai around here, and to a lesser extent Volkswagen. On the high end it’s mostly Mercedes-Benz and BMW, sometimes Porsche. Once in a while I’ll see Rivian but they don’t have a dealership in our state. Even more rarely I’ll see Polestar, which does have a dealership in a city at the other end of the state, and at least one person here has a Lucid Air.

        Edit: also on the high end, there’s at least one Hummer EV driving around here.

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          Depends on where you are in California I guess. I see more Rivians here than Cybertrucks.

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        Rivian & the 2 or 3 models the big manufacturers have. I see way more hybrids than full electrics in my area.

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          Ford has 3, the F-150 Lightning and the unfortunately named Mustang Mach-E, and the E-Transit van I think is primarily for commercial customers.

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    The Bay Area is probably the only thing keeping that company alive. Every stoplight you pull up to there has at least a couple Teslas

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      3 hours ago

      When they’re up for renewal, they won’t be replaced with Teslas.

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      I know a lot of people who bought teslas before musk became a full blown oligarch and feel uncomfortable about it

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          Any car is sold at a loss. As someone who recently paid one of these off, I can’t stomach a new car payment in the face of our melting economy because six years ago I didn’t foresee the head of a car company turning out to be a freaking nazi.

          Considering my Tesla replaced a VW TDI, I’m feeling particularly salty and completely disillusioned about ethical consumption under capitalism, etc. etc. I wish people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.

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          i also wonder what people in cali are thinking when they bought the cybertruck, because i seen quite a few to them. i noticed they try to obscure the windos,s o people dont know that are driving it.

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      Even in iowa you see them all over. There are so many drivers any car make other than the most exclusive will be seen soon if you fixate on it (read look).

      Stastics show tesla is a tiny brand by market share. However they are wer the only ev brand until reciently so people focus on them.

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        And that’s really the only reason I have one - it was the only long range electric car available when I bought it. Now I would choose any of the many other options first.

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    These guys are FAKE NEWS and Need to be DEPORTED for Hurting ELON MUSKS FEELINGS!

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      ear 100% EV market share just a few years back.

      in cali, ev is big here.

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      They had near 100% EV market share just a few years back.

      Losing half the market in 3-4 years is a huge change for any company, even if some of it was inevitable as rivals caught up and suprassed their offerings.

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    At some point prices will get so low that it’ll make sense to buy a Tesla and rework the body so no one knows it’s a Tesla.

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      Doing that will probably make it near impossible to get serviced, though.

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        If you can buy a Tesla cheap enough the usable parts, such as batteries and motors, can be moved to a different frame or vehicle. Even an ICE vehicle that you’d like to electrify. It’s all just parts.

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          I like the way you think. When Tesla tanks and gets sold off for pennies, could you please start a Tesla Conversion business? I’d like to have a useful EV pickup that can carry a slide-in truck camper. I don’t need any of that self-driving shit or connections to the Cloud or giant touch screens. Just pedals, gauges, levers, buttons, and a steering wheel.

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            There are some companies working on electric crate engines for conversion, I forget the names but they should be ready sometime soon

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              That’s pretty wild and really cool to ponder. Battery placement and balancing its weight safely seems like a steep hurdle for bolt-on EV conversions.

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                Seems like there’s potential space in a lot of the undercarriage, or as flat packs at the base of the engine and trunk compartments.