“White Female Mamdani”?
Seattle mayor Katie Wilson added a BUS LANE.
Daily Mail is pure garbage.
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Please consider sharing achievements of Seattle mayor Katie Wilson rather than sharing the negativity and hateful propaganda of her critics.
Anytime you share a thing you hate online, you are doing free marketing for them.
You could instead ignore it and counterbalance with hope, optimism and successes.
While I agree with you in general, there wasn’t a single thing in that headline I consider negative. As far as I’m concerned, it was all complimentary.
(I know that was far from the author’s intentions, but that is genuinely what I think of it.)
I absolutely love this strategy and am 100% on board.
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Mamdani is living rent free in those dipshits head. What really hurts them is that its working.
That’s my mayor! On the campaign trail, she raced the eight (the bus she is adding a lane for) by walking while holding her child, and beat the bus to the end of its route. The bus lane is very needed, and she is cool as hell for delivering on her campaign promises.
If you can best a bus in a footrace, that bus route needs to be improved. As simple as that.
My rule of thumb is: taking a cycle should be slower than bus (when starting at the same time) but the waiting time should not make the bus slower.
Edited: wording
With all the stops, cycling is usually faster unless the route is uphill or you really don’t have a lot of stops and probably need more.
How far apart are you stops? It’ll they are too close, I can see this happen. ~5 minute walking?
Bus routes are not always straight, that may also contribute. But yeah, I think stops are 5–7 minutes by foot apart here
Maybe I’m just a dumbass, but I think your rule of thumb is busted?
X should be slower than A, but should not be faster than A + B.
Isn’t slower the same as “not faster”? I think it should be slower than A, but faster than A + B. So between A and A + B.
Or “the bus should be faster if it’s already here, but cycling should be faster if you’d have to wait for the bus”. I think that’s what you were going for.
Okay, I’m not the only one who was confused there for a sec
Yeah, almost. Cycling shouldn’t be much faster than having to wait. If it is, either the route has too many stops or a low frequency.
My average cycle speed at around 10 kmph (minimal effort, no hills, some red lights) and if a bus can’t match this…
Give it better signalling, dedicated lanes to skip traffic, etc.
My ‘can’t hold attention long enough to read all the words’ brain auto-converted it to
My rule of thumb is: taking a cycle should be slower than bus but should not be slower than waiting time + the ride.
which must be what they meant.
Its a good rule of thumb. I ride an hour in to work (on an e-scooter) because it is faster than that bus during rush hour. Outside of rush hour though, the bus beats me every time. It’d be cool if I could become mayor to add a bus lane for that route. And all the other routes that need it tbh.
My rule of thumb is that within a city, a bus (other than BRT) is likely roughly the same speed as a bike, assuming good bike routes.
If the bikes are stopping regularly because of red lights, that will obviously change.
if a bicycle is slower than a bus, then it is definitely slower than waiting+taking a bus
Think you got yourself mixed around there.
no?
counterpoint: cycling takes 10 minutes, bus takes 5 minutes, at this point cycling is slower than the bus. waiting for the bus takes 8 minutes, now cycling is faster than waiting + ride time
that makes sense and now that i reread it idk what i was thinking. sounds like a few people were confused though loll
Bike with parking can and often should be faster start to destination than walking+bus+walking at least compared to city buses, it’s different with buses who are allowed to go faster than 50 km/h
Some cities have abysmal frequencies. So you would be waiting for 20 minutes or more
I have done similar in my city (sans baby). I had like a 3 mile commute and while usually the bus would get a ahead of me before I got to work I had a thing where if I got to 2 miles in im not taking the bus for the last mile. That situation was not uncommon. I would stop and look behind so if it was close to two miles and I saw it I might still take it.
I have done something similar on Oxford Street.
I suspect this is not the same.
It was quite a popular race!
As someone commuting to the city from the Eastside (now taking the train every day), I was unfamiliar with the sad state of the 8 line before this post.
There’s a dedicated website: https://fixthel8.com/
I learned from that site that all-girl punk band Tacocat wrote a song called F. U. #8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRFlROqgFwo
Tacocat were great, but I’m pretty sure one of them is a dude. Sad the band is on indefinite hiatus last I heard.
Whoops… I saw a grainy promo photo and listened to the song and jumped to conclusions. Thanks for the correction!
Hell yeah.
We have a dedicated lane for our streetcar line here in KC and it is glorious.
My mayor too! She was the first politician that I canvassed for. I had a blast.
My biggest problem with busses is that they aren’t trolleys or trains. She should consider replacing the bus with trolleys and/or trains.
They tried their damnedest, but somehow they still make the mayor sound based as hell.
In one line I got:
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She’s comparable to current rockstar mayor
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She fixed bus service
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She hersekf uses bus service
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She noticed a problem and fixed it
- She likely could afford a car since she has a mayor’s salary, but wisely chooses to ride the bus because of its many benefits to society
She likely could afford a car since she has a mayor’s salary
Definitely couldn’t before though! Hence why her parents help her cover childcare expenses.
Right, good article, she couldn’t then but can now, yet she chooses not to in order to help the lives of regular people
Impeach her right now! The job of government officials is to enrich themselves at everybody else’s expense! Heresy!
If you’ve been to downtown Seattle you know why people don’t drive there.
Traffic? The worst intersections I’ve seen in the country? The fact that when you get there parking for an hour often costs more than a day pass for the train and bus?
Easy solution: just drive toward Denny & Stewart then get out of your car. By the time you’re back from whatever you were doing there you may be able to move forward a bit. Free parking!
I’m pretty sure that’s how people use the I5 in Seattle.
There is no “the I-5” north of California.
To give more history about this route, there is a annual "race the 8! event scheduled by seattle urbanists where people start off on the worst part of its route and do increasingly outlandish activities on foot while still beating it to its designations. Folks have beat it juggling, walking backwards, dancing, etc. Katie and her kids participated before she was the mayor, and you guessed it, beat it.
This route serves an intensely dense part of the city and has been failing people for years. The city/county have been making piddly, empty changes for nearly a decade that fixed nothing, like adding a 1 block bus lane. Yup, one block only.
The bus is regularly 30-40 minutes late, which makes using it miserable and unreliable. The reason its route is terrible is that there is a highway onramp thats right there near Amazon HQ. So for years and years people commuting in and out of the city have been prioritized over people who live in it, and no previous mayor had the stones to push back and fix it for actual residents.
It is not just prioritising car commuters from outside vs locals, it is simply an extremely wasteful use of limited traffic capacity. The bus, not clogged down in traffic, has a way higher capacity than probably even two full car lanes at the highest performance. A bus lane is the only rational thing there. If that makes the highway off ramp redundant because there is no capacity for cars left to justify it, simply tear it down. It is fake capacity anyway if the traffic cannot be supported further down the road and it would even benefit car drivers, as it would remove a clogging point and free up capacity on the highway.
I agree with everything you say until the end. It’s disingenuous to say that residents do not take the highway. It runs through the middle of the city! We all take the damn highway.
Ehh, way more residents take or would take that bus then would use that on ramp. Its mainly an ingress point to the freeway for people who commute.
The ramp isnt even closing, its just being sanely re-routed to not cause such a clusterfuck.
That particular on-ramp, yes. I’d rather just drive south (I live to the south) a little bit and take an easier one. But still, anyone who drives here uses I-5 all the time.
That ramp really does need to be rerouted. It makes that entire area undrivable.
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Right? Like the worst thing they could say is that she… Fixed the public bus system so it actually functions on time instead of being inconsistent? Like, I don’t get how these people think that’s such a bad thing.
Cause they had an extra lane for their private vehicle and they feel like a service their taxes paid for has been robbed from them to serve people “that haven’t worked hard enough for it.” They worked hard to buy and pay for their car and they feel upset if their ability to use their private vehicle on public infrastructure has been diminished. Despite the fact that cars have been given the vast majority of space and funding for decades. There is also nothing stopping them from using the improved bus service except their preconception that “its for the poors.”
Oh I know their logic. I just don’t get their logic cause it’s fucking dumb.
The Daily Heil is super reliable, let’s put it like that.
That was a really hard to parse title
It was written for the people who get their news from Trump’s social media posts, so not surprising it reads in that style, at least to me.
Yeah that title was godawful
“Takes away lane of road from motorists” is a wild way to say “Created a bus lane”. These people need help.
The only people who ride the bus are people I hate with wide eyed, red-faced, frothing rage.
I hope this is a description of the inner machinizations of the outraged crowd in question… rather than you being the example.
Whoa, whoa. Chill. It’s just a bus.
Why are you screaming like hell, buddy?
I’m sorry, that’s just my instinctive response to the b-word.
I assume she had this framed and mounted on her wall, I would.
Let me get my daily fail headline translator out real quick:
“Came under fire” == “somebody tweeted”
“Fury” == “a bot tweeted”
“Outrage” == “one of our staff tweeted”
“Slammed” == “somebody liked our tweet”
Feels like one of those “bad now, better later” changes—depends if it actually improves transit.
Bus lanes have higher throughput of commuters than car lanes.
If a mayor created a private lane only they could use between their house and work, that would be a crazy abuse of power. Or say, put in stop signs / lights right at their subdivision so traffic was more convenient for them in particular.
This mayor sped up the commute for thousands of people at a minimal impact to a significantly smaller number.
Bus lanes have higher throughput of commuters than car lanes.
To play devil’s advocate…
Bus lanes having higher throughput doesn’t imply that it’s always the right choice to replace car lanes with bus lanes.
If the road was a major bottleneck for cars and this change made it even narrower, it could hurt throughput for both cars and buses!
Cars should be illegal
There’s no devil advocate on that though. It’ll even clear up the congested area for emergency vehicles and keep pedestrians on that street safer. Either way it’s adding a bus lane, not restricting any car access.
How would it reduce throughput for busses?
Say that street A feeds into street B. Street A flows freely and is necessary for a different bus route. Street B is a bottleneck, both cars and buses pass through slowly.
If you remove a car lane from street B, the cars might back up into street A and impede both cars and buses that previously flowed freely through street A.
It’s a contrived example, but honestly I can think of a few places like this near me.
I realize now I shouldn’t have broached this topic in fuckcars 😂
I mean, all discussion is welcome. City planning is a complex topic.
“White female mamdani” is just fucking insane 💀 Also seattle is extremely woke compared to the rest of the us so good luck creating backlash. Its gonna be all the people from several states away who have nothing to do with it that complain. Same thing with NY, a lot of the people saying how “new york will fall” were from texas and whatever.
Also seattle is extremely woke
It’s a satrap of the Boeing/Amazon Imperium with all the existential horror that implies.
Case in point, Seattle hosts no less than five Superfund Sites for toxic waste cleanup. You cannot fish in several of it’s major waterways due to the accumulated contamination.
It was a major perpetrator of Red Lining, creating enormous ghettos that suffer from neglect and hyper-policing to this day.
But we don’t have anyone in the City Council screaming the N-word during campaign events or promising to deport 100M people if elected to higher office, so it gets the reputation of Woke by comparison.
Same thing with NY, a lot of the people saying how “new york will fall” were from texas and whatever.
Corpus Christi is on the verge of losing water pressure across the entire municipality, because the city administration looted the funds for desalination facilities too aggressively.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg on Texas politics right now.
But sure, they’ve made a cottage industry of heckling the other major economic heavyweights in the country.
The “compared to the rest of the us” carried a lot of weight in my argument and you left that out in quoting me but other than that yeah i agree.
they had to emphasize she is white and a female, they dont consider her human. Mamdani has defintely got the dnc scared to the point they had to reveal thier true colors as racists and islamophobc like the gop they are.
“This doctor who has never had measles is vaccinating people!!1!”
They takin’ our lane, fuckin up everything
why don’t to you take the bus?
ain’t nobody take no busses, deys to slow.
And crackheads
Crackheads never worried me, catching a cold/flu on the light rail was pretty shitty though.
You’ve never been attacked by crackheads then
Nope, and never seen anyone attached by them either. Worked in Baltimore for 30 years. Not saying it doesn’t happen, but it’s pretty rare.
Only crackheads take the bus…. And mayors!!
Car owners: “We can’t use that one lane now if it’s reserved for buses! This is bad! We want to use that lane!”
Random passers-by: “Well, if you want to use that lane so badly, why don’t you use a bus, then?”
Car owners: “We can’t! B-b-b-because…!” 😡I’m not versed into English poetry, but mysogyny and racism put asside, can someone tell me is it suppose to be a well written sentence or as ugly as I feel this is ?
This is as ugly as you feel it is. Dumb people only read the headline, so newspapers written for dumb people try to jam all the points they want to make in the article into the headline.
try to jam all the points they want to make in the article into the headline.
the specific wording of specific headline aside, i like it far more than “you will never believe what this politician did!!!”
you SHOULD be able to tell what the article is about from the headline and only click for details if you are interested.
The headline should contain what the article is about, but details and interpretation are what the rest of the article is there for.
A better headline for the OOP news article would be “Controversy over new bus lane” or if you really want the mayor in the headline: “Mayor sparks controversy over new bus lane”
Yeah the whole sentence sucks. I am convinced it’s meant to have people think “what the fuck are they even talking about?” and click.
Daily Mail writes at the level of it’s audience, and this is a Facebook Rant tier piece of journalism.
That’s how English headlines are written. American ones are even more awkwardly terse.
I can’t understand a single word of this from “who has never owned a car”.
