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          They’re also part of the same class. Their party color and public beliefs are just like clothing. Trump wanted to run as a democrat but they wouldn’t have him, so he went Republican.

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              You’re right, “repeal” is the wrong word but the right concept. The Citizens United ruling could be reversed by another Supreme Court ruling, or made moot on a state-by-state basis like Hawaii’s approach.

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                The Citizens United ruling could be reversed by another Supreme Court ruling, or made moot on a state-by-state basis like Hawaii’s approach.

                Or a national legislation, sure. Or an end run by an activist FEC. Or, or, or…

                I don’t see a coalition of politicians ready to do this. Even the Hawaii case is heavily overstated, as its DOA in the courts. Like, I love to see the attempt, but I’m not bullish on the governor standing ground.

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                  We’ll have to see how Hawaii plays out - if it actually does get overruled then that becomes a valid argument, but simply dismissing as “DOA in the courts” isn’t.

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    Missing are the crucial steps after say vote

    • “tell leftists what they want can’t ever exist”
    • “block what they want or whatever they try, rhetorically and literally”
    • “then blame leftists for all this”
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    thank goodness you’re posting disenfranchisement memes that barely articulate a problem, let alone a practical solution.

    uuusefullllllll

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      The problem is that liberals are spineless fucking collaborators and the meme articulates it just fine, you just resent being rightfully called out for your spinelessness

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        I would say the problem is that conservatives are power hungry fascists who don’t give a shit what you think the problem is as long as it ends in them getting more power but that’s just me.

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        The problem is that neither of you understand or engage with political truths because then you won’t get upvotes for promoting baby-brain disenfranchisement and futility.

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          Telling the truth is never disenfranchisement. If you have to lie or turn a blind eye to win, your values and your morality sucks.

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            you certainly aren’t telling the truth in any meaningful way by promoting disenfranchisement based on your narrow misunderstanding of complex political situations.

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        Are you… participating in those ways? Or are we all the meme about being all talk? I’m pretty active in my community but most people who post this kind of stuff don’t do much more than complain, eat hot chip, and be hypocrites in my experience. Which is fine I guess.

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          Can you explain how being “active in the community” will lead to reform in our broken healthcare system?

          My life was destroyed by medical bankruptcy. That was 15 years ago, and I have not financially recovered. How can we save others from suffering this same fate?

          Luigi was one person, and he did more to change the system than every community group. He sacrificed himself to save lives. We need more heroes like Luigi.

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            My local DSA is actually really active in raising money to pay off people’s medical debt. It’s not comprehensive reform, but it’s something.

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            Not a whole lot. I’m not saying I’m going to fix the healthcare system for the US. I’m more wondering what more OP is doing than the person in the meme saying “go vote” because I think it’s a little silly to complain about other people while doing less yourself.

            As for my community, tbh we just collaborate and help each other. Watch kids, take care of grandma, help out in the yard. Little stuff. We also pool money but that pool is pretty dry since one of our community was diagnosed with skin cancer. But when I asked what more I could be doing or what others were doing I was also looking for suggestions and it feels like I was suggested giving up my life and committing murder. Which would be fine but I don’t think that’s what the fella who posted the picture is up to. I’m kind of saying “hey do something yourself before you ask others to do more” and then got a suggestion to kill CEO’s from someone who definitely isn’t killing CEO’s.

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              You don’t have a clue what someone else is doing in real life based on their posting. Their statement is either true or false regardless of what they’re doing in real life, any attempt to compare community organizing credentials is just pointless dick measuring. Any person who might hypothetically be doing anything Luigi-like would have to be a complete fucking moron to cop to it on a public forum, asking/expecting them to do so is fed behavior.

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                Right. That’s why I asked what they’re doing besides posting. Because I don’t know. And there isn’t any community organizing dick measuring. I was literally asked if I was doing anything about the healthcare system myself and that was my answer. “Locally, yes”. I feel like you might be missing some context or something. But you’re right. The person who suggested I commit murder and give up my life might be doing the same and it might be unreasonable to assume they’re not a CEO murder machine. That’s on me.

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                  No you were literally not asked that, you were asked to explain how being “active in the community” will lead to reform in our broken healthcare system, if you can’t remember what the comment you were responding to said you should try scrolling back up and reading it again like I just did

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              On a side note there are tons of people who want more people to follow in Luigi’s footsteps and will even push people to do so but are just sitting on their hands themselves because they can’t stomach the consequences. Don’t want to ruin their own lives but they don’t mind someone else taking the bullet. So to speak.

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    The money-people LOVE you thinking liberals are gutless and both parties are the same, because then you don’t think about the real problem, that getting elected to major office today without sucking the dicks of corporations is nearly impossible.

    Repeal Citizens United.

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      The money-people LOVE you thinking liberals are gutless and both parties are the same

      No they don’t. They love you to believe the opposition party - which they control - is a desirable alternative to the incumbents, because this allows them to impose discipline over both party organs.

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      The real problem is that capitalism is unstable/unsustainable. Liberals maintain it. Conservatives use its instability to enrich themselves at everyone else’s expense.

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      BoTh PaRtIeS aren’t the same… but they are both anti-labor and pro-corp.

      Otherwise, they’re for sale. Depending on what you’d like, one could cost you more than the other. Many are making millions using their office… openly. Imagine what is not reported.

      Independents are now over 40% of registered voters… Ds and Rs are dipping below 30% each.

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        Good. As long as it leads to repealing Citizens United and further finance reform so corporations aren’t calling the shots. Politicians are afraid to say no to corps because they need the funding to stay in office.

        But 44% of independents lean Democrat and 33% who lean Repub, which is reflected in their voting. I only registered Democrat myself so I could vote in the primaries.

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    Ok so let’s try an experiment. Where on the circle are you? And what are you doing to put brakes on the fascists?

    Oh, nothing? Yeah… We know.

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      What was the purpose of this post, do you think? … Maybe there was one, and maybe that was OP doing something. Maybe next time you’ll recognize that.

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        Contrary to your belief, posting a meme is not ‘doing something’.

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          Lol all you have is trash talking. Even when you get called out, you double down. Meh, if you are having fun keep going, the internet is good for that.

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            I have been doing mutual aid in minority spaces since the 90s. Teaching classes on survival, self defense, and gardening/animal husbandry since the 2000s.

            I’m building an intentional community and giving away land (99 year lease for one dollar) to those who share the inclination towards helping each other without the state where possible. We now have half a dozen people with plans to move up, and I have built the infrastructure up over 4 years to support those people’s dreams of being themselves and having a place to be safe doing so.

            I grow food, rescue animals, and write letters of character for people who are going to court for small infractions against the capital class.

            I support and volunteer at more than a few shelters and abuse centers.

            I’m all just trash talk though… Sharing memes is where the real action is.


            Note: I am also not against sharing memes. Generating cultural knowledge of how fucked the system is is an important part of progress. What I am against is useless memes that shit on one group for doing nothing while giving a tacit pass to the actual fascists doing the majority of the damage to any progress being made.

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              Anybody can claim anything they want on the internet, even if you’re not making shit up about your activities it does fuck all to support your argument