that they expected it to eclipse real people AT ALL is both telling and slightly disturbing.
really show the kind misanthropic mindset a lot of these lizard people have developed at theyre position.
Ahem… https://www.flyingpenguin.com/cloudflare-ceo-is-lying-to-you-about-the-bot-traffic-jump/
The category Prince points to as the cause contradicts him. Agentic is tiny. What actually fills the AI bucket is training scrapers, like GPTBot and ClaudeBot, pulling text to build models, which have been climbing steadily and predate his announcement. He blamed a friendly, fast-growing sliver of agents fetching pages for people and swapped in unfriendly bulk (mass scraping for training). Why? We can guess, but that is exactly the traffic his pay-to-crawl product exists to bill.
It’s a sales pitch.
And it’s based on a lie.
Did somebody say “dead internet theory”?
It’s just dumber than it was before.
I always wonder how much of Lemmy is just bots. Am I blissfully alone interacting with the machine? Or are you weirdos actually real?
What a wonderful question!
You are right in doubting the identity of users using Lemmy. But I can assure you, not only am I human – I am real as well!
Missed the opportunity for an emdash there
It has such a humanistic approach
I am absolutely human. Now, real? I’m not too sure about that.
You’re right to push back. As a Lemmy account, I can assure you that interacting with me will always feel human.
I feel like the incentive for corpo/astroturf/spam bots is not really there to visit fediverse. So let us remain unpopular !
I agree with this take. We’re not gonna be worth the bandwidth over here. Facebook can generate millions of impressions.
I’m real, but how could you “really” know?
There’s only one way : Pics or didn’t happen
Well, the number of fingers seems to be ok
It’s impossible to tell the dumbest human and the smartest bot apart, because anything one bleets out with no thought or intelligence to ground it against an underlying reality… Could also have been bleeted out with no thought or intelligence to ground it against an underlying reality by the other.
Unless they use en dash when it “should” be used according to the grammar books, apparently.
It’s not about intelligence, it’s about patterns. The bigger LLMs can already mimic the smartest individuals fairly well.
And other signs of AI writing, at least for now. They may move away from that in time as people catch on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing
Signs of AI Writing - just grab a book on corporate way of speaking/writing e-mails and you will find it exactly the same.
Just botting it up over here. Sorry dawg, blessings to your skin.
I find
argumentsinteractions on lemmy go much more in-depth and feel dramatically more authentic than the responses to arguments i used to get on reddit. -That said i’m pretty sure c/political memes@lemmy.world is primarily bots. I’m also sure there are a few similar communities that are just as bad, but they appear limited.Lemmy has a small userbase that has a high percent of humans vs bots, but a lot of those people tend to be whackos. Reddit has a huge user base with way more bots and whakcos (both by percentage and raw numbers), but also more normal humans. So there’s a tradeoff there in which platform you use I suppose.
Actually, they don’t mean that bots are making content on the internet or interacting with anyone. They mean it is agentic AI doing internet searches etc.
I’m a real boy!!!
Prove it
I dig holes for a living and I can’t afford health care.
How long is your nose?
ID age verification is a good example of something that could actually do a lot to reduce spam and ensure people are talking to real people, but it would never happen because the money is in flagging and tracking the verified people and selling access to the bots talking to them.
What happens in 18 years when the bots are all grown up?
They get put out to pasture, selling WoW gold to each other until their server goes down.
I am human. My insides are soft and warm. Nary a nut or bolt to scrape you raw.
There are some bots that behave like some Tracies straight from myspace, I don’t know why they’re doing this, they are just paraphrasing the memes they comment
I’m not joking
E_PLAYHUMAN
I am not a bot.
Holy shit! Who would have thought the bots would be downloading that much of porn?
How do you do, fellow humans? 🛹
that or marketers are to dumb to tell the dif now.
Ah… so they are going to have bots make the purchase to keep the cogs of industry churn? Everything is a grift these days. WHAT. THE. FUCK.
you know what, we could do proof-of-work on the client side to prevent scrapers.
bots have to solve 1 cryptographic puzzle to load the website. if you’re human, you load maybe 10 websites and it’s barely worth mentioning. but if you’re a bot trying to scrap 1 million websites? the energy expenses are prohibitive.
Do bots say curse words? 😂
Culture grows exponentially
To fit t needs of technology
Naturally, mechanized bein
Grow bigr than soul creatin
A good intention uses tech
To grow outside of the net
If you are just a cyber man
Then the Borg is your plan
So be as Christ was and is
Why don’t you create ur biz
Fish an’ bread how do feed
Oh fulfill society’s big need
Infinite power availabl now
Become God or I tell u how
Then I be what you do obey
But ‘I’ is which pyramid say
Is this a poem and if so what’s the name and author?
Me, Victorious Phoenix. Name, I dunno, The After-effects of Perceiving and Undoing the Karmic Fetters that Bind One to the Existence-illusion Complex. I am attracting attention to my educational (f)art project God trained me for and makes me do.
Oh, so dead internet is, in fact, the plan. Wonderful.
We might need to create a new internet at this point
One internet, yes. But what about second internet?
Yeah but it happened a year earlier than planned!
Ahead of schedule you say? The shareholders will be thrilled!
*the shareholders do not use said Internet, themselves.
Typical. Fuck it up for someone other than themselves.
Yup. Followed by the AI surveillance state. The Stasi has been digitized and never sleeps!
You know, god bless the bots because they’re probably soaking up at least some watts of surveillance.
except now they get useless data because they now just datamine bots, who are datamining each other.
That’s what digital ID is for! To correlate the real humans activity. The Flock video surveillance can then be linked to your real world movements along with digital currency to track your buying habits! Your phone and wireless earbuds to listen for keywords a rat you out to the government! What a wonderful utopia!
Feeling free yet?
Well since everything is so affordable I’ll happily accept this police state…
/s
Good thing I don’t go anywhere, do anything, or talk to anyone.
It’s not totally dead, as the Paris catacombs are not totally dead if there are a couple of tourists
As well as unofficial “tourists”.
TIL: Turns out ReptilianCleric is the only actual human left on the Internet. Beep boop bop
Harambe was the focal point of turn of events.
The Internet is pretty fucked, we might as well just call it and go home. Oh wait
says agentic traffic wasn’t expected to eclipse real people until next year
… which means, it already happened a year or two ago and it is much, much worse than anyone can imagine
Ya fuck at this rate I’m gonna have to go outside to talk to a real person before the end of summer.
That’s not true. I’ll always be here to talk.
I’ll. Always. Be here.
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Yeah didn’t B2B traffic jump over 50% a loong time ago already?
The amount of malware from these bots is insane, guys.
It’s fucking up the internet in ways most don’t understand.
Dude! We said we wouldn’t completely fuck up the Internet until next year!
Until AFTER the big AI company IPOs, eh? Well, sucks to suck
Ugh, what pathetic reporting, taking him at his word—that’s not what his own numbers say! It’s not agentic traffic, it’s just all bot traffic! And what’s the number-one cause of bot traffic right now?
AI scrapers, NOT agentic traffic!
They’re taking “wow, our scrapers are destroying the internet (see Anubis, “Stop Externalizing Your Costs Directly Into My Face”, etc) and spinning it into “wow, look how powerful agentic garbage is,” while carefully hiding the actual agentic numbers so they can pump this stupid bubble even more!
Lies, lies, lies, it’s all lies all the way down…
I mean have you used an agent? They are fucking dumb and make a ton of queries to get anything done.
Oh yeah, 100% true, “amount of traffic does not even remotely map to amount of actual work being done especially on such a horrifically inefficient system” was a point I meant to bring up but I sprung a leak in a blood vessel from sheer rage before I could even get there. Thank you.
Some agent may do 100 queries for 1 user question, but a single scraper bot will do 100 queries every single second of every single day, and costs less to run than the LLM.
Fair point. Scrapping is definitely the low overhead high impact problem.
Just pay for more cloud compute that will fix it…
Would you like to know more? That’s gonna cost ya.
As an aside the recent trend of using compute as a noun instead of a verb really pisses me off, it’s so goddamn stupid.
I agree. Though since my comment was intended to be annoying (in the same way the current reality is) I shall stand by its use here.
A lot of times their training is lacking in whatever I’m trying to get them to do, so I have to direct them to read particular web pages in order to have a clue what they’re supposed to be parroting.
