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    “It’s torture that as her mom and as her family, we could not protect Renee,” the mother testified, clearly emotional. “But no one can protect against others who are determined to disregard our country’s constitutional rules and values.”

    No, she definitely could have protected Renee by not voting for someone determined to disregard our country’s constitutional rules and values.

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      Might even go so far as to say not voting for someone who had already proven disregard for the constitution before voting for them.

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        She definitely doesn’t seem interested in taking accountability for her actions

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          “But no one can protect against others who are determined to disregard our country’s constitutional rules and values.”

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          I’m a registered Republican.

          It wasn’t “others” it was Trump’s orders. She is still comfortable with the racist lies of the GOP.

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      You know she isn’t referring to Trump when she says this. It’s people like Kristi Noem and Greg Bovino who were going rogue and doing all of this against Trump’s orders.

      He loves and cares about Americans and only wants to protect us from the scary immigrants.

      With MAGA people, the buck stops literally anywhere but with Trump. Nothing bad is ever his fault.

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      Assuming that they ever spoke, didn’t her mother vote against her daughter’s interest?

      I was under the impression that Renee Good was married to a lady and they had a kid or two.

      I can’t help but think of the qanon revealing-all-the-child-abusers conspiracy theory and Irony.

      The whole thing makes me sad.

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    Per usual, supporters of the far-right only change their tune when the fallout personally affects them.

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      This isn’t “far” right. This is how conservatism has always been. Conservatives are genuinely evil.

      Remember how they celebrated the deaths of gay people by AIDS and by gay-bashing from the 80’s through the 90’s. They fucking CELEBRATED the deaths.

      Conservatives also did everything in their power to defund and delete any AIDS research and prevent any police agencies from committing any resources to stop the violence against queer folk. Oppression has ALWAYS been part of their political platform.

      This isn’t the far right. It’s just plain old conservatism, just as it’s always been throughout all human history. Conservatives are truly, deeply evil. It is immoral to keep a relationship with any of them. Disown them all.

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      She’s not changing her tune. At best she’ll skip one election before continuing to vote R religiously

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      Because they lack empathy, they literally do not have the capacity to project themselves into someone else’s shoes and feel for them unless they experience it themselves.

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      I feel like I’m going fucking crazy, like this didn’t happen already. He turns the entire American public against him, they vote him out so overwhelmingly that even their election fraud and foreign interference and owning all media outlets can’t save him, and then the entire country gets fucking amnesia and swallows the propaganda hook line and sinker, rinse and repeat.

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        I’ll say that what the public really were trying to vote out was the reality brought on by COVID and how that was handled.

        Now, COVID is ‘done’, they can convince themselves that anyone would have been screwed up in that situation, and even if they screwed it up, well, that is done.

        So back in 2024, trying to vote out the inflation.

        Basically every election since 2018 has been about voting out whatever is currently going on.

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    Only after receiving this new information did Trump admit he “felt terribly” about the shooting, adding, “I understand both sides of it.”

    Art of the Deal, Chapter 10: “If You Kiss My Ass Enough, I Might Throw You a Bone”

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      That didn’t happen.

      And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.

      And if it was, that’s not a big deal.

      And if it is, that’s not my fault.

      And if it was, I didn’t mean it.

      And if I did, you deserved it.

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      Now he’ll make up something that the daughter grew up conservative and was radicalized by the left.

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      Read “Throw you a bone” in the same way you throw a rock to someone and not how you throw leftovers to dogs. Trump hasn’t helped anyone that has kissed his ass, only those that give him cash, and even then…

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    Well she’s certainly having the day she voted for.

    “This is madness,” she concluded.

    This is America that you voted for.

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      No, the America she voted for was for this to be happening to poors and browns.

      Not her precious white daughter

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        Everyone and their dog knew this would happen. Only ignorant and blind morons would have assumed the Trump administration would only go after “illegals”.

        Oh by the way, it’s not a criminal offence to be in a country illegally. It’s a civil matter. Being an illegal immigrant should not be a death sentence.

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          Only ignorant and blind morons would have assumed the Trump administration would only go after “illegals”.

          Now see the thing about Trump voters is. They are that ignorant. And malicious.

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          This is what Republicans have wanted for decades, for black, brown, immigrant and liberal to be shot in the street.

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            It’s truly wild that someone like Good’s mother would want that to happen while her own daughter was openly queer.

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                She was divorced, had an 8yo kid from a previous marriage, and her partner at the time of her murder was another woman. Renee Good was queer as fuck, and very open about it. And her mom voted for people like her daughter to be killed.

                She got the day she voted for. And now she’s upset about it.

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          Only ignorant and blind morons would have assumed the Trump administration would only go after “illegals”.

          Sure, but they likely did assume the admin would mostly not do this to white citizens too.

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            See my “ignorant and blind morons” comment. We all knew they would do this to white people too. If you let a completely unckeched authority full reign to create and cause chaos, that chaos will spread to everyone, not just the “illegals”.

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      Heres hoping she has a long life with every day filled with the inescapable horror of what she did and is responsible for.

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        Naw, she will be like the guy who shot and killed his daughter in Texas over an argument about Trump. She will take a pill, make herself a strong drink, and move on with her life.

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      She probably didn’t want ICE to murder her daughter, and claims like that are ineffectual counters to far-right messaging.

      She wrote:

      I voted for President Trump under the impression that these agents were here to protect the citizens of the United States — innocents like our family and the others here — against terrorists

      and that probably is what she thought she was doing, but those agents turned out to be a far greater threat to her family than immigrants or “terrorists”.

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          The lack of subtlety in online discussions can be tiring.

          Anyone who voted for Trump a second or third time absolutely should have known he was a shithead who would harm the country. If they were clever, they might have figured out his plan for mass deportations would result in an armed goon squad killing some Americans, but if they were clever, they never would have voted for him at all.

          None of that is equivalent to a mother wanting Trump’s goon squad to kill her daughter. She fell for his bullshit about immigrants being scary.

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          There is no way to be this uninformed.

          It is tragically too common though. Willful ignorance breeds yet more ignorance

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              Conservatism is a learned behavior, not one that is inherited. I would prefer they not pass their values on to anyone but them not literally breeding isn’t a solution to the problem, as much as it may help

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                I disagree. While it is possible for a young person to learn to be conservative in their youth, a normal person will necessarily abandon conservatism as they get older. This is because a normal person will have the ability to experience empathy. It is not possible to experience empathy and hold conservative views simultaneously. Conservatism defies empathy. A person who feels empathy for others cannot also hold conservative views. They are simply incompatible with empathy in every respect.

                Not only are conservatives biologically unable to experience empathy, but they also choose malice and greed in service to their narcissism. Conservatives are unable to be taught to be normal, just as a normal person cannot be taught to be conservative in any real, lasting way. We are fundamentally, biologically different from one another.

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                  People become more conservative as they age. I don’t know where you get this opinion they will necessarily abandon it as they age.

                  As people get exposed to more injustices and as they gain more things that can be lost they become more protective of their own situation and stop caring for other people, typically. I have seen multiple studies on this that arrive at the same outcome.

                  Again. I don’t know why you hold the opinion or where the opinion comes from. Would love to hear your side if you feel like explaining

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        It’s a shame you got hit with early downvotes. I don’t think a lot of people realize how much a negative or positive vote score colors their interpretation of a comment. Because frankly all you were doing is being specific about what happened.

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        and that probably is what she thought she was doing, but those agents turned out to be a far greater threat to her family than immigrants or “terrorists”.

        If only there were people around to warn everyone…

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    This is nothing more than divisive ragebait. Who gives a shit? The story should be that ICE has murdered several innocent people, bystanders, and got away with it. While you’re at each other’s throats, they keep getting away with it.

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      No, fuck that, Republicans need to face the fact that the people they vote for will kill their children. She voted for anti-immigrant violence, and she got what she voted for. Let her be a warning to others.

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        I don’t agree that this is rage bait. I think these people need to see shit like this. It’s the only fucking way these people can ever seem to learn anything.

        They need to be shown that there are consequences for voting in and supporting fascists, and they’re not immune simply because they support the people doing it.

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          Yeah, you’re probably right. I know journalists often find new angles for important stories to keep them relevant, rather than simply repeating the same details, this seems more like whats happening here.

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    That dumb bitch is responsible for the death of her daughter. I hope it tears her up.

    I also hope that she steps on lego every day for the rest of her life.

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      She will never take responsibility, and instead do what these right wing nuts always do, and that is to pass the blame onto someone else.

      I.e. “this is Bidens fault, cause he left the border open for the immigrates to take our jobs, and eat our pets, and that made me vote for Trump, and he brought in ICE, so… Not my fault”