• TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    I find it very on brand for these guys to simultaneously piss off Jewish people and Palestinians within just a couple weeks.

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      the thing with israel is that it’s an anti-semitic state. zionism is an anti-semitic stance. also palestinians are also semitic. it’s just… all so dumb

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        4 hours ago

        And evangelicals want all the Jews in the world forcibly exiled to Israel because they think that’s the only way Jesus will return.

        And those motherfuckers better have zip ties and guns if they expect me to put a molecule of my body across the Israeli border.

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    Could you guys also scrap the ADL? They seem to have jumped the shark in defense of his nazi salute.

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      They just need to sever the ADL’s ties to Israel. It’s hard for me to believe it’s a NY organization when they parrot Netanyahu’s words and sound nothing like the voices of every Jewish New Yorker I’ve met.

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        They’re just a mouthpiece of the likud party and have been for a while now.

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      “Us guys” do not universally support the ADL.

      Just like we do not universally support Israel.

      Can you guys stop deciding what every Jew supports? I’m getting really fucking tired of both telling people that you’re wrong and being told I’m the wrong one back because of my genetics.

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        You may be a leader and you may be Jewish, but I interpreted that comment to specifically mean the people in power who maintain this connection. That is, “you guys” sounds like an appeal to the Jewish leaders referenced in the article, the US leaders that support the ADL, or both.

        I might be wrong, I don’t know OP or what they truly believe. If there is context I’m missing that changes the message, I will stand corrected.

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          I never suggested I was a leader, but even plenty of Jews in leadership positions of Jewish organizations do not support the ADL. We can start with Jewish Voice for Peace.

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    8 hours ago

    It would mean more if Israel weren’t actively genociding Palestinians.

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      Oh look, someone who thinks that “Jew” and “Israeli” are synonyms.

      As always, no matter where I live, no matter how much I say I hate Israel, I will always be a foreigner and a Zionist.

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        Really? You really think that? I know that plenty of Jewish outside of Israel don’t support the current genocide of Palestinians, and I know plenty do.

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          @Maeve

          Long time no see russian bot 👋 How was your vacation after telling people not to vote Harris?

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          I think you sure as fuck implied it, when you said:

          It would mean more if Israel weren’t actively genociding Palestinians.

          Why would it mean more unless Jew and Israeli were synonyms?

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              Ah, I see, so it isn’t “Jew = Israeli,” it’s “Jew = Pro genocide.” Totally different.

              Do you also expect every Muslim to denounce ISIS every time they face bigotry themselves? I bet you don’t.

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                  You’re evading. I didn’t ask if they were. I asked if you expected it. Do you? Or are only Jews expected to denounce genocide every time they face bigotry in your view?

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          They didn’t deny the genocide, but asked why that’s relevant. Jewish people are separate from Israel, even though Israel wants to muddy the waters. It’s like blaming all of Christianity for the holocaust because hitler wanted to put a Christian veneer on it.

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            We blame every Christian for the crushed, crusades so I hardly see a difference. I painted with words that would have been understood by Christians and he’s in my rl community, forgetting that I’m on a world platform where my meaning may be misunderstood, and I’m sorry for that. We just know each other well here and even though we sometimes disagree, we don’t always take it personally. I need to be more considerate.

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              We do? Speak for yourself. I don’t know anyone who blames a single living Christian for anything that happened hundreds of years ago, mostly because I don’t associate with bigots and that’s a bigoted view, like the ones you’re displaying.

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          I’m Jewish. I do not support Israel and I never have. The ADL does not speak for me.

          But I’m going to guess you’ll call that typical Jewish lies.

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          Right, it’s not a genocide, they’re simply killing everyone that is living in a specific region. In fact, between the dead there aren’t exclusively Palestinians, but also some aid workers, volunteers from western countries and sometimes even their own kidnapped citizens. So it is not strictly a dictionary definition of genocide, rather a “mass murdering of the population”.

          In fact, I don’t see why they’re paying billions to Google to place AI on weapons when the algorithms seems to be like “hospital = target” and “if it moves = target”

          • FelixCress@lemmy.world
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            Stop talking rubbish. Israel is actively performing a genocide of Palestinians, other people are just a collateral damage.

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          Long time no see russian bots 👋 How was your vacation after telling people not to vote Harris?