• ItsJaaaaane (She/Her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    That moment when Microsoft tells people to throw away perfectly good working computers because they’re running Windows 10. When Windows 10 was just coming out or had just come out, Microsoft promised that Windows 10 would be the last OS of theirs, and there would only be updates. Also Microsoft is constantly sending messages to people running Windows 10 urging them to update.

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      I really wish there was something regulatory that could be done about this. There are millions of perfectly good fully working computers that are going to go in the fucking trash because of this. I understand the desire for a TPM on every machine. It makes sense in a way. But the pure environmental impact is just indefensible. All of those computers had a significant environmental footprint to build them and ship them and again to dispose of them plus building and shipping their replacements.
      If Microsoft had such a hard-on for TPM, they should have worked with computer manufacturers to make some sort of retrofit system or way of easily determining if a TPM can be added to an existing computer

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    2 hours ago

    It’s probably a non monitored email but I just replied, “I already switched to Linux because of this”

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    5 hours ago

    Trade it in or recycle it with local organizations

    And what are those organizations expected to install on systems that can’t support Windows 11, Microsoft? What are they expected to install exactly?

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    Yeah I lost it when I saw this too. But, because I waited so long to switch to Linux, it’s to the point where I feel it has so much of what was lacking the last time I used it. Easily over ten years ago. Thank you to everyone who slogged through it to get here.

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    5 hours ago

    This is the biggest garbage a tech company did to almost 256 million PCs in use and fully working. I installed Linux Mint on all three PCs I own. Free and works far better than I thought.

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      Mint runs on a 17-year-old Acer Aspire One I have. Slowly, very slowly, but perfectly.

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      My parents are now using Zorin os because it feels like Windows, and they don’t even know it’s not windows. For the vast majority of people who only use a browser it’s a no brainer to switch.

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      I got PopOS a month ago and its freaking awesome. Cant believe how long I used Windows, Linux is amazing. It is extremely overblown by people saying it is hard to use

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    4 hours ago

    Guess my parents will continue and will use unsupported OS in the future. Maybe i install Linux to my mother, as a beta tester for the family when i go visit them in the summer.

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      They use it for basic everyday stuff like web browsing? I installed Linux on my mom’s aging laptop that she just used to sell stuff on eBay, browse, listen to music, back up photos, etc. Linux glides with ease on the machine when Windows slogged and she was able to understand the OS fine. Users today don’t really have to touch the command line at all unless they are doing something advanced. The GUI is just as easy to understand as Windows.

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        I don’t know. They maybe use only their phones now. I’m not sure. I better check before start anything. My father’s computer needs AutoCAD and office so probably gonna stay in Windows 10.

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    For people who still need Windows:

    I have a 10-year-old Surface Pro 4 and I was able to freely upgrade to Windows 11 and it works fine. It wasn’t technically supported but I enabled preview builds or something like that (I think I had to enable the Insider program) and it showed up as a Windows Update. I don’t know if this is applicable to all PCs that don’t support Win 11, but surely it’s applicable to some of them that Windows says don’t support Win 11.

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      Yes, it’s known that it is possible to do that, but Windows 11 has TPU 2.0 requirements for a reason. As they say, it’s for security. In my opinion, if you have to jump through so many hoops and loops to use a damn OS, just to use it as a home desktop or to use old tech, just move to Linux. You have Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Fedora KDE, Steam OS (not yet fully out), and many more. For a beginner who came from Windoes, I recommend Linux Mint. If you already have a Steam deck, for example, I recommend Bazzite (it’s non-imutable) or Fedora KDE Plasma.

      Edit: Sorry if I came out harsh, I didn’t mean to sound like that, I just feel frustrated at how shit Windoes has turned in too

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        Ah, no worries. I’m just sharing for folks who might need Windows for one reason or another. It’s a one time thing to upgrade either way, not a hassle at all. They might own weird niche unrepairable devices like my SP4 which may not handle Linux well or who knows. For clean installs there’s that nifty place with serial keys and builds whose name I forget right now.

        As for Linux, I’m kinda torn. I had my time tinkering with config files in the early 2000s in the days of Fedora Core 3 and KDE 3.x before all this Plasma stuff. The whole “year of the Linux desktop” that never came left me disillusioned, although I did enjoy the Compiz/Beryl days. It’s probably better now but I’m too comfortable nowadays. We’ll see if things get dire enough that I need to jump ship again, I hope not.

      • A Wild Mimic appears!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        i run nobara (a fedora spinoff) for a few months now, and it’s a great experience, i learn a lot about how the os works and it’s all visible! i feel like i modded my pc into a transparent machine - i can read up about simply every part of the os. i freakin love it :-D and all this while i can use it as before.

        my last experience with linux was debian jessie - i was not so happy with that, and after i landed in dependency hell for the first time, i switched back. nowadays, with flatpaks and appimages, all those issues i was having in normal operation are gone.

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    I said from the beginning that the tpm 2.0 requirement was a way to make people buy new pc’s. Good news for me who wants a laptop upgrade.

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        I’m already using linux, but my laptop is an older dell with a 5th? Gen i5 dual core. Still works fine, but i had to jankily push down on the keyboard ribbon cable with a piece of cardboard, still has sata ssd, screen could be nicer, bezels are an inch wide, etc. This an oportunity to get an uograde if companies are going to dump perfectly good hardware.

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        I’m waiting for decent support for the snapdragon x elite chips. From what i can tell from discourse online it’s still a very rough experience with linux.

        I don’t want to drop £1500 on a laptop i can’t really use.