Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025
Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.
Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an “unprecedented mass deployment” to Europe.
Wasn’t Trump the peaceful dove?
No US president is a peace dove. Between supporting proxie wars to police actions to declared war, they all end up getting people killed by bombs.
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Yeah we’re gonna use like 1 tanker for that, 2 on a busy day. The 28 others are going somewhere else
Under rated comment— is planned excercise in Finland it seems although they don’t mention tankers so who knows
This is basic dictator playbook, problems in domestic politics, start a war and problems change to foreign policy.
Putin has done this multiple times now, and Trump is following up.
This is why I say Canada, Greenland, and Mexico are not safe. Added to the fact that all 3 countries have lots of resources the US needs.
Wouldn’t this cause catastrophic domestic problems though. I think the US would tear itself apart trying to go to war with either of those three. Greenland perhaps less-so but still incredibly distasteful.
Time to waste hundreds of billions defending israel while our infrastructure crumbles and our citizens still go without healthcare.
Again.
Where can one acquire an anti air missile?
CIA in the 80s
Trump is after Iran’s eggs, I guess. He promised the people of the US lower egg prices, he will get them from Iran.
How can people in the US be okay with this? Their quality of life has only decreased since Bush 2 started his wars of terror. A propagandized population driven to hate others and rally behind the president.
As unlikely as it may be, I hope the US loses quickly and decisively against Iran. Not in 20 years from now like in Afghanistan, but soon. I don’t know what cards Iran has, what leverage they may have, but I hope they have something that enables them to inflict pain.
Iran is defending, that’s why the americans cannnot win this war. They don’t have enough bombs to kill every iranian from the sky.
And again we see old incompetent white men starting another war.
A society goes to shit when old men start wars whose conflict they know they shall never fight in
Nice one.
The silver lining is that this will accelerate the decline of the US Empire which in turn will weaken Israel. Although this will be too late for the millions who have been or are still to be killed because of these psychopathic regimes.
Israel is a project, literary run by people not their in the first place, so even if US Empire collapse they will move their money to the next dominant power.
I don’t think China gives a shit about Zionism. There’s no natural pool of evangelical Christians to brainwash.
China is self-sufficient and has advanced military tech that is at least equivalent to what the US has. Israel has nothing to offer it besides localised spying or murdering people.
Russia is a possibility but it has always found common cause with the Arab nations and Iran so wouldnt be as reliable. It’s also not as powerful.
The US is the only sugar daddy for this parasitic colony.
I didn’t call it, but there’s nothing quite like a war to distract the population from rampant decline at home.
This one is weird though, Iran is allied with Russia. Israel is allied with the US. Historically, this made sense.
But Trump and Putin playing war together would benefit both of them. It allows Putin to pull out of Ukraine because “Iran provided us much help and they need us now.” And it allows Russia to maintain the war economy. It benefits Trump because he wants to play war.
Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it’s just people’s lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.
I don’t like this. This is feeling more 1984 than 1984.
Edit: I like this even worse after I read the specifics of the KC-135R and KC-46A. Each can carry about 200,000 lbs of additional fuel. A single F-15E can hold 13,000 lbs internally. 30 KC-135Rs can refuel an entire F-15E 460 times. Israel has 7 KC-130H (60,000lbs) and 7 Boeing 707s (which is what the KC-135 was based on). This isn’t just escalation, this is staging for invasion.
Ukraine could throw a wrench in their plans by simply not accepting whatever Putin offers. He’s then left with “stay out of it and stay in Ukraine” or “join Trump and risk Ukraine flanking into Russian territory”
Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it’s just people’s lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.
Cold War 2: now with more stupid!
Before COVID, 2020 started off with Trump drone striking a foreign diplomat and nearly starting WW3.
Both Putin and Trump are approaching dead-ends in their current campaigns. This ICE stuff can’t end well for him with so many people out last weekend, and Putin is well stuck in Ukraine, as you say. Whilst they may not be personally interested in the future of Iran and them having nukes by itself, they may need this to save their skin, actually.
The nice thing about Americans going to war is that it reduces the amount of dodge owners drag racing late at night. Silver linings.
yea its a distraction from all the protests, its really making him look bad, but he has the msms focusing on this instead, plus he was using the parade and the shootings as another distraction as well. right now the news practically ignoring the protests. using the. BANNER strategy, flood the MSM with so much crap its hard to focus on one thing. its also known as the firehose of falsehood which is a Russian strategy for propaganda.
Sounds like personal beef.
We just want fucking healthcare and affordable housing.
Sorry, best I can do is 2 trillion more for Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and the like. They’re desperate man, they haven’t had a war for like 12 minutes, they need to be fed.
Zomg, Boeing planes being flown above enemy territory as surprise kamikazes (surprise to the pilots & crew).
You had a chance at that in Zuck’s metaverse…
Best the turnip can do is a gold colored overpriced shit phone.
Not to worry, it’s made in china, shipped from china, and then people in detention centers will be forced by ICE to package it for that bonus fascism feel for those that believe it’s made in the US and and they’re getting a deal on the T-Mobile package that costs almost 2x other providers for the same service.
You don’t, because almost none of you vote for socialist candidates.
This is the truth.
Americans have shown where their priorities lie, time and time again.
The media told them
Hillary is the most qualified candidate in historyonly Biden can beat Trump, because he appeals to moderates, where things like free healthcare and not locking immigrants in cages only appeals to far left loonies.The average American wants these things, its just we cant risk the Republicans winning so we have to run on the republican platform from 4 years ago.
None of which are socialist.
They are all systematically weaved out of the closed, private two-party system.
Don’t worry. You’ll get it if you can be drafted.
And it will last you till your death (several days later).
But don’t expect any medical treatment after your service if you’re a Democrat or unmarried: ‘Extremely disturbing and unethical’: new rules allow VA doctors to refuse to treat Democrats, unmarried veterans
And human rights. Due process. Rule of law and respect the constitution. Less inflation. More progress on our environment. Rebuild some infrastructure. Invest in some technologies of the future rather than the past. Leadership that understands basic economics and actually the art of the deal
I’m bringing peace to the Middle East! The peace president! 🫲🍊🫱
Don’t ya know, he ended the war in Ukraine on day 1!
I wonder where we’d be today if Trump didn’t pull out of the nuclear agreement with Iran. Might not have made a difference, who knows.
Israel would have scratched their butt, then made up another reason to bomb them.
Anyone else get the feeling WW3 has already started but we just haven’t realised it yet?
Yeah. It feels that way. What defines a world war anyway? Is it just when “most” countries become engaged in a major conflict?
Yeah, like which of the recent events will be in future textbooks as the trigger for WWIII, and how will it all lead back to WWI (like WWII is basically a direct consequence of conditions of pre-WWI and major events related to the war & post-war treaties - WWIII in this config is a consequence of WWI/WWII & the forced hegemony/colonialism of USA that followed).
WW2 happened like 25 years after WW1.
It’s already been over 80 years since the start of WW2, so I’m not sure you can really assume that they’ll be that related.
So what caused WWII?
I assume your answer is ‘one man’?
In the same way “terrorist groups” arent created by the dominant force exerting mass injustice?
It’s not a world war if it’s not from the Austrian region of Germany, otherwise it’s just sparkling aggression.
Austrian region of Germany? I presume with that level of geography you must be American.
WWII literally began after Austria (Hitler’s homeland) was already a region of Germany (since March 38).
I think it’s a joke abaut how closely related the countries were, when they started the first 2 WWs (and maybe Hitler being Austrian)
Austria had already been annexed by Germany when WWII started
Also Hitler was Austrian. Also Austrians are Bavarian.
Coincidentally, the current German minister of the interior is Bavarian and facing multiple criminal complaints regarding inciting subordinates to commit crimes.
Imagine starting WW3 the weekend after 3% of your population came out to protest for other reasons. Your war weariness debuff will hit 100% in one turn.
You could argue it started when Russia invaded Ukraine. But I wouldn’t mind Trump being forever remembered in history as the instigator.
I’d say annexed Crimea. (Unless that’s what you meant)
You’re probably right
You could also argue it started when the US invaded Iraq
Doomer brain is toxic. WWIII will be a clear line. They have been.
Why do people say such ignorant shit with so much confidence?
Both world wars look like “clear lines” to you after the fact. Of course you can just point at, say, Ferdinand getting assassinated and go “yeah that’s what started WW I” but do you think anyone at that time thought “yup that’s going to start the mother of all wars”?
As others have pointed out they absolutely didn’t look like clear lines when they were kicking off.
They have been.
Months after assassination of Ferdinand the actual fighting began, and most projected it would be just anther war (common at the time in Europe, tho less common each century). People living through it knew nothing about it upfront.
We wildly think of WWII beginning with the invasion of Poland, but it took months for everyone (England included) to realise it wasn’t a war between two countries.
Not to mention how WWI & WWII are basically the same war in two seemingly inevitable parts.
And we have had a ton of proxy and/or cold wars between Russia & USA since WWII ended.
Just speculating really. Mind enlightening me what the clear line will be?
I’d just like to take this opportunity to say “fuck you” to all the service people flying these planes, planning the logistics, and otherwise operating at the behest of our sadistic federal government. Sure, the civilian leadership is ultimately at fault here, but y’all are humans with agency. I’m no longer carving out culpability from these goddamn people anymore. Fuck you terrorists. If we escalate yet another war, I’ll plan to spit on you when you arrive back broken and dead. Bring on the downvotes.
The nuremberg defense didn’t work for the nazis, why should it work for zionists?
Completely
differentthe fuckin same
I was thinking the same about the national guard deployed to LA.
I was hoping to find at least one article that focuses more on that part, but until then: what you said.
We - everywhere - need to talk about soldiers as people, not “the military”.
I think there’s a huge difference between serving in a military controlled by a healthy democracy, and serving in a military controlled by an authoritarian regime.
Several weeks ago you could forgive someone for not realising that Trump is the latter, but not really any more.
It’s been decades that our military has been nothing but an imperialist boot. There is no moral ground to stand on in signing up. Work fast food.
But fast food won’t guarantee housing or healthcare. Military recruitment preys on those with nowhere else to go.
Decades implies that it once (in USAs history) wasn’t so, which is false. The rest of it if very true tho.
Always. Even the continental army was set up to facilitate and enable genocide.
How hard is it to just not kill others?
Apparently really fucking hard for some.
Instead of “thank you for your service” I guess we’ll have to start saying, “fuck you for your service”
